$5 NLHE 6-max: Flopped the nut straight..horrible river card, villian jams, action?

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$5 NLHE 6-max: Flopped the nut straight..horrible river card, villian jams, action?

Is this just a fold?

I mean, basically it completes the only draw he was chasing, K,J..

Now, the reason I 3bet pre. This guy has opened close to 100% of my BB and I've folded a fair amount, however, he has also folded to 50% of my 3bets from the BB and I felt 3betting here in postion would be ok plus the fact he is very fit/fold on flops and often c/f's close to 100% of the time when he misses meaning c-betting any board nearly is profitable vs him....anyway.. heres how it goes down.


pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($5.94)
Hero (BB) ($12.50)
UTG ($5.14)
MP ($6.92)
Button ($5)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9
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, J
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3 folds, SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.35, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.70) 8
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, 10
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, Q
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.50) 6
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.99, SB calls $0.99

River: ($3.48) 9
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(2 players)
SB bets $3.67, Hero ??


I feel we only beat a complete bluff which makes no sense given my 3bet, + two barrels. I guess it's possible he can do this with sets/two pairs or something weird, like maybe A,J sound about right..theres no reason to think that would be behind here..i think..I dunno.

He's quite passive in general on most flops, it's pre flop he's aggro..so thoughts, is this just a snap annoying fold?
 
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you're getting about 2:1 to call so you only have to be good 33% of the time but is that good enough? I'm not sure you're only beating a complete bluff. You raised preflop which tells him you had a strong hand from the beginning (you didn't but that's another story). For all he knows you could have been betting with AT, AQ, KQ, AA or KK which means he might do this with a two pair hand. Also, a complete bluff just isn't that far out an idea. The 9 on the river is a great bluffing hand which could get you to lay down one of those hands or even a set. You're probably behind but 2:1 odds and the chance to look him up seem just about right. I guess I call for the price of a cup of coffee.
 
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You're rarely beat here IMO you're usually chopping with QJ
 
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I think he plays hands we're beating like this.

I'd bet more on flop and turn. pot, pot, shove for me I think.
 
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I think he plays hands we're beating like this.

I'd bet more on flop and turn. pot, pot, shove for me I think.

no point shoving. unless vil is retarded now hes definitely not calling worse. call it 100% only ship with a read that vil is a moron
 
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Pot the flop & turn, no one is folding that board.
 
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Fold pre.
As played make your bet size bigger man. You lost a lot of value. NVM what he did on the river.
 
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Fold pre.
As played make your bet size bigger man. You lost a lot of value. NVM what he did on the river.
You say that like he's facing an UTG raise. This is a blind steal. Folding pre is way too tight v. the player described below. Raising was the right play.

This guy has opened close to 100% of my BB and I've folded a fair amount, however, he has also folded to 50% of my 3bets from the BB and I felt 3betting here in postion would be ok plus the fact he is very fit/fold on flops and often c/f's close to 100% of the time when he misses meaning c-betting any board nearly is profitable vs him....

If villain were a tight player, or a passive player who never raises then a sb open might mean something but v. any competent player you should at least be calling with top 25% hands. High cards play best HU so call with any Ace or King, any suited connector or med gapper, any med to high strength connectors. You absolutely must raise with any pair or any broadway, suited or otherwise. If not, any aggressive opponent will mop up the table with you and he'll do it with any two cards.
 
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Fold pre.
As played make your bet size bigger man. You lost a lot of value. NVM what he did on the river.

Fold pre?:eek:

Did you read the stats? He folds a ton to 3bets and was opening nearly 100% of his blinds on me. It was a perfect time to resteal, sure I could of made sizing slightly bigger but tbh..he had such a high fold to 3bet, sizing wasn't relevant all that much.

It wasn't a "value" raise so wasn't ever losing value..
 
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