$5 NLHE 6-max: Flop decision holding JJ

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $12.69 (VPIP: 58.16, PFR: 31.91, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, hands: 147)
MP: $5.07 (VPIP: 20.97, PFR: 14.51, 3Bet Preflop: 2.67, Hands: 3,208)
CO: $9.00 (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
Hero (BTN): $7.94
SB: $1.43 (VPIP: 25.96, PFR: 14.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 111)
BB: $5.00 (VPIP: 20.87, PFR: 18.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.73, Hands: 776)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J:diamond: J:club:

UTG raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.07, 4 players) 3:spade: 3:heart: K:diamond:
UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.00, UTG raises to $4.00, fold

Villain raised 50% of his hands first in. Flop 2-bet 32% (7/22 Hands). How would you have proceeded with that information? Thanks for reviewing

HI !

After reading the above,

he is quite a Loose Calling Station who could have A3s and he try to slow play it . ( not saying it is 100% sure but it seems that way ) or he hit King on the Flop and when was sure no one hit 3 he Re-Raises and would probably raise big on Turn or Show after the Turn or River > > > So good FOLD bro !!!

I would fold as well in that situation as any 3 or King beats JJ

Anyway Good Luck @TABles !

T0mmmi said:

HI !
So good FOLD bro !!!

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Well.. that was actually not my fold but MPs. CO folded as well. Then it was time for me to decide...

Always a fold

Even though he looks goofy bad (as far as his stats), he's check min raising into 3 people in a 3-bet pot. It's a fold.

Thanks guys!
What followed was my dumbest AI in many thousand hands.
I lost 159BB to his K9s....

I would check the flop, you are not beating anything. If we are heads up we might raise to make our opponent fold a Q or an Ace but with so many people having called my 3 bet I am just not liking the flop.

Thinker_145 said:

I would check the flop, you are not beating anything. If we are heads up we might raise to make our opponent fold a Q or an Ace but with so many people having called my 3 bet I am just not liking the flop.

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UTG is 58 / 32. It seems overly pessimistic to assume you're behind his entire range after he calls your 3bet.

Arjonius said:

UTG is 58 / 32. It seems overly pessimistic to assume you're behind his entire range after he calls your 3bet.

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MP and CO also called....

just check behind the flop, you're really running the risk of being check raised in a 4 way pot, there is a very decent chance at least one of your opponents has a King in his hand, i'd just check and take a free card, however we bet and get check min raised, villain has super crazy stats so this particular hand should be super read dependent and you should act on instincts and the information you've learnt in previous hands played by villain, and whether you think he is a capable of bluffing because there is really no draws out there, villain has an unlimited range of hands he could be calling us with pre and he could definitely be holding a Three, it just makes sense to fold this hand because we're not beating anything that would contemplate a raise on this flop.

From my experience maniacs are not raising you after the flop without an actual hand. I have made similar mistakes in the past where I could not give credit to a maniac. You need at least TPGK to play against maniacs after the flop.

Thinker_145 said:

MP and CO also called....

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So? Did I say I thought you're ahead in the hand. I merely disagreed with your statement "you are not beating anything". It seems more likely that you're ahead of parts of all the opponents' ranges.

Fold. The villain has AK. Sure of it.

One more thing, he wants you to stay.

Checking is the best play cause if you bet his calling with a narrow range that is crushing you and folding most if not all of his hand that you beat and if he check raises you, your in a horrible spot and he could have you drawing to 2 outs and
you know a big bet is coming if his a maniac>