$5 NLHE 6-max: Feedback on two AK hands please

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Rhinelander

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Was 4-tabling and played these wo hands within one minute. Felt pretty lost there... thanks for your feedback!

Hand #1:
Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $12.46 (VPIP: 19.66, PFR: 12.25, 3Bet Preflop: 3.82, Hands: 367)
SB: $5.00 (VPIP: 21.04, PFR: 15.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.81, Hands: 994)
BB: $2.79 (VPIP: 45.71, PFR: 37.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 37)
UTG: $3.08 (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 33)
Hero (CO): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K:club: A:club:

UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.57, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.52, Hero raises to $1.45, BTN calls $0.88, UTG calls $0.88

Flop: ($4.42, 3 players) 6:club: 4:heart: 8:heart:
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.05, UTG raises to $1.63 and is all-in, fold, fold

UTG wins $4.30

Hand #2:
Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 17.09, PFR: 11.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.12, Hands: 576)
SB: $5.02 (VPIP: 22.32, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 471)
BB: $5.13 (VPIP: 20.95, PFR: 15.35, 3Bet Preflop: 5.81, Hands: 993)
Hero (CO): $8.85

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A:heart: K:spade:

Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.45, fold, BB raises to $1.52, Hero calls $1.37, BTN calls $1.07

Flop: ($4.58, 3 players) 2:diamond: T:club: J:heart:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $3.48 and is all-in, fold, fold

BTN wins $4.36
 
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not that it matters but open for 0.20 in the first hand, also don't generally 4bet AK OOP especially in a potential three way pot and when BTN only has a 3.82 3bet percentage so he pretty much has to have 1010+ or AK+, when UTG villain spews the flop out of curiosity would you be calling here if the BTN wasn't still to act behind? UTG's stats are maniacal and he probably shoves there with any two.

Second hand you should of folded pre, i'd say BB pretty much has to have QQ+ and sometimes AK to of 4bet a pot OOP, and you have the 3better still to act behind you, if he 5bet shoves what is your play, you'd probably have to fold, if you wanted to get it in you should of been the one to shove therefore maximising what little fold equity you may have. We're dominated or drawing to 3outs way too many times in this spot.
 
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2nd hand, you should fold there for exactly the reasons given by thatgreekdude.

1st hand, You should probably flat there when btn raises to .57 and UTG calls.
 
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Agree with the initial raise being a bit bigger in the first hand, we'd like to both build the pot and isolate the maniac if we can. Once it's been three-bet and called by UTG I don't think we should be raising any more either - small chance the button thinks you're making a play on the maniac and he's trying to steal, but with those stats it's more likely he has a legit big hand here.

As played we have to fold with the button still to act behind us, he's repping a big hand that's probably still ahead of us on that flop, and you'd have to figure he'd be putting the rest of our stack in. If it was just UTG in the pot I'd think more seriously about calling... but without the button in the hand the action and pot size changes so much it's probably irrelevant :p
 
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You're making some huge mistakes here. Zero chance that I'm ever folding either flop if I played preflop the same (I wouldn't have btw).

Hand 1 preflop .20 at least to iso and then just flat the 3bet.

Hand 2 preflop is a pretty clear fold to the 4bet. Flatting there (and especially flatting and then folding the flop!) is just throwing money away.
 
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1. Pay attention to your hud... BTN is the only decent looking villain at the table and has a 3-bet % of 3. 4 betting is pretty bad. I like a raise to at least 0.20 previously too.

2. Fold to 4bet. Do you have the 4bet stat on your hud? You have decent sample sizes on these players, yet seemed to pay little attention. On both hands you're failing to identify your opponents and play your hand accordingly.
 
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