$5 NLHE 6-max: Facing 3 barrels on dry board

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5NL 6-max zoom on pokerstars. Villain is unknown.

Hero (SB) has $6.48
Villain (CO) has $4.83

Hero is dealt 2h 2c
Hero (SB) posts $0.02
BB posts $0.05
UTG folds
MP folds
Villain (CO) raises to $0.16
BTN folds
Hero (SB) calls $0.14
BB folds

$0.37 in pot (2 players)
Flop shows 3d 6s 6h

Hero checks
Villain bets $0.15
Hero calls $0.15

$0.67 in pot
Turn shows 6c

Hero checks
Villain bets $0.29
Hero calls $0.29

$1.20 in pot
River shows 9h

Hero checks
Villain bets $1.30
Hero ???

I always come across tough spots like this at 5NL zoom and I never know what to do... did I play this hand correctly so far? How should I react to this overbet on the river?
 
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React by folding. All other streets, including pre can be a fold too. Set mining with 22 from the sb sucks. Its hard to get paid when you hit and you never actually have showdown value/can get to showdown when you miss. Only set mining here if it is a big fish and we are 100+bb or it is a multiway pot.
 
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React by folding. All other streets, including pre can be a fold too. Set mining with 22 from the sb sucks. Its hard to get paid when you hit and you never actually have showdown value/can get to showdown when you miss. Only set mining here if it is a big fish and we are 100+bb or it is a multiway pot.

+1

Fold pre, this is insanely spewy
 
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I guess if my UTG open range is 55+, then my sb-calling range against CO should probably be 55+ too.

But as played, what do you think about the flop, turn and river?
 
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I guess if my UTG open range is 55+, then my sb-calling range against CO should probably be 55+ too.

But as played, what do you think about the flop, turn and river?

Fold flop but folding turn is mandatory before a fish milks me with pocket A3s
 
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But what about the possibility of the villain bluffing with pure air? The villain would expect me to float him with 2 overcards on the flop, but maybe he expects me to fold to a second barrel? Or what if the villain had a straight draw and is aggressive enough to barrel with a draw (I usually barrel my draws too when I have the initiative)? Can we really just assume that we're behind on the turn?
 
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But what about the possibility of the villain bluffing with pure air? The villain would expect me to float him with 2 overcards on the flop, but maybe he expects me to fold to a second barrel? Or what if the villain had a straight draw and is aggressive enough to barrel with a draw (I usually barrel my draws too when I have the initiative)? Can we really just assume that we're behind on the turn?

We have deuces, and not many people are barreling draws when any pair has us drawing dead. We are OOP and we have deuces.
 
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Can you please stop trolling in Hand Analysis

Getting ridiculous, but I guess it is good for the game.
You're afraid of making assumptions about a full stacked player raising in the CO (that he is raising wide & will fold)? Or is your ego so big you can't fathom a disagreement with your eminence?
 
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Well, I ended up making the hero call. I figured that I was getting 2 to 1 odds on a call. Do you think that this was justified (please answer before you look at the spoiler)?

Hero calls $1.30
Villain shows Ad Qd
Hero wins pot $3.69

This goes to show that 5NL players are very aggressive and do indeed pull off triple barrel bluffs (I would never be making this kind of hero call at 2NL, since those players are much more passive and less likely to bluff).
 
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But what about the possibility of the villain bluffing with pure air? The villain would expect me to float him with 2 overcards on the flop, but maybe he expects me to fold to a second barrel? Or what if the villain had a straight draw and is aggressive enough to barrel with a draw (I usually barrel my draws too when I have the initiative)? Can we really just assume that we're behind on the turn?

Problem with calling small pocket pairs OOP otf or ott is that we might even be losing to their bluffs. Bottom pair, 33, 44, 55, etc. And even if they have just two overcards, they have a ton of equity against us.

Playing small pocket pairs OOP to a single raise, or even 3-way is not really profitable. Set over set is a possibility, and you won't always get paid off when you hit your set. This last point is really important. Your opponents could just have nothing, and you won't get even one bet out of them. Your opponent can have an overpair, but be smart enough to get away from it. You can get outdrawn on by a straight, flush, higher pocket pair, etc. Or you could be drawing thin to a made flush, straight, or drawing almost dead to a higher set. Or you can get bluffed off the best hand since you're OOP if the board gets too scary.

Being OOP sucks, even if you have card strength and skill advantage. Some guy bluffed almost 2.5BI into me with A high just today when I held the nut flush (gave him rope to hang himself after I called his huge flop raise with a gutter + NFD and turned the nut flush). You can't call in that situation even with top set on 3 to a flush for 2.5BI; probably not even 1.5 BI unless you had a sick read.

You seem to be playing and defending a little too loose for 6-max. How's it working for you?
 
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Isnt it bad 3betting babypairs oop?? I guess if we know vill is folding flop it wont matter

i wanted to address your question first aces. no, when we 3b , its either for value or a buff, so you can 3b any two if villain is ft3b is high, or your image has been tight

Now, as for the hand this is not a dry board, there are three 6's by the turn. we have no info on the villain. so we can't assume his CO open range is super wide. he could be a nit and really only open up his range on the button. try not to make assumptions about unknown players, and when i say assumptions i mean calling three streets on this type of board.
 
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3Bet or fold pre dependent on villain. I'd only be flatting 22 in the SB if it was multiway and/or the BB was a fish who is almost always entering in after me.
 
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Isnt it bad 3betting babypairs oop?? I guess if we know vill is folding flop it wont matter
Main plan: get vil to fold to 3-bet or c-bet
Backup plan: make a set, profit

Essentially we're semi-bluffing preflop, drawing to a set on the flop. Way better than 3-betting KJ, and drawing to a dominated pair.
 
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You're afraid of making assumptions about a full stacked player raising in the CO (that he is raising wide & will fold)? Or is your ego so big you can't fathom a disagreement with your eminence?

Im all for differing opinions, its why I post here. Im not for giving newer players advice on how to spew. But if im going to 3bet bluff here im going to use a hand like Ax suited that blocks part of his calling range and can flop and turn equity/top pair hands. Not going to bluff 22 that blocks the bottom of range and only gains equity when we hit a two outer.
 
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Probably depends on your post flop skills if you are good post flop then better to 3Bet majority of the time and the rest of the time fold.

If you aint great post flop then as already said call if at least 100BB or multiway.

Im assuming this also applies to suited connectors as well, especially higher suited connectors
 
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