$5 NLHE 6-max: Do I still bet the river for value?

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Kind of a strange hand. What should I do different? Do I still bet for value on the river after villain checks? Or am I just being called from better hands?


PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


MP: 113.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.46, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 100)
CO: 301.8 BB (VPIP: 23.24, PFR: 18.55, 3Bet Preflop: 8.96, Hands: 970)
BTN: 168.6 BB (VPIP: 18.94, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.10, Hands: 307)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: 101.8 BB (VPIP: 54.29, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 36)
Hero (UTG): 126 BB


SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q


Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, BB calls 9 BB


Flop: (35 BB, 2 players) 6 9 T
BB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 26 BB, BB calls 19 BB


Turn: (87 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB


River: (137 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero ???
 
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OK, pre flop raise bigger, he's not gunna fold much to basically a click back, make it 25-30bb and fold out a lot of his equity and get value from some worse hands.

Flop play seems fine, I'd just be worried that he's only calling with:
99JJ,AsKs,AsQs,KsQs,AsJs,KsJs,QsJs,AdTd,AhTh,AcTc,Ad9d,Ac9c,ATo


assuming he 5 bets KK+


Turn is a standard call.


River is tricky, if you can put him on a strict calling range of JJ,AdTd,AhTh,AcTc,Ad9d,Ac9c,ATo then you have to shove.


However this assumes that he shoves his TT on the river and 5 bets KK+.


If you can't assume this then just check.
 
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Flat the 3bet pre: When BB 3bets vs EP he's repping a strong range and you don't want usually to get it in pre so you should defend by flatting (good to also flat AA & KK in this spot BTW for balance).
Raising flop for thin value and protection is fine vs this tiny donk-bet. By now it is clear he's a fish and almost always has a worse hand here.
Note that after the flop action we are basically pot comitted, with more than 40% of stacks in the pot.
Turn I would just raise-shove over this yet-another tiny donk-bet, expecting the fish to call with AT, JJ or a flush draw.
River is also a clear value shove.
 
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Thank you for your inputs. Unfortunately I just checked behind and he showed [7d][6d]. He probably would have called a tiny value bet. But hopefully I will remember it for next time!
 
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Flat the 3bet pre: When BB 3bets vs EP he's repping a strong range and you don't want usually to get it in pre so you should defend by flatting (good to also flat AA & KK in this spot BTW for balance).
Raising flop for thin value and protection is fine vs this tiny donk-bet. By now it is clear he's a fish and almost always has a worse hand here.
Note that after the flop action we are basically pot comitted, with more than 40% of stacks in the pot.
Turn I would just raise-shove over this yet-another tiny donk-bet, expecting the fish to call with AT, JJ or a flush draw.
River is also a clear value shove.



We don’t have to worry about balance here vs what’s shaping up a very unbalanced aggro fish. He 3B’s a lot over an admitted small sample and V is certainly calling with worse. I’d 3B bigger.

The spr is close to three so we’re close to committed. We’re on a semi wet flop vs an aggro fish who bets out, once he bets the pots 42bb we need to raise it more here. Building value before scare cards come down is vital and we want to cut V’s pot odds and charge for drawing.

Push the turn.

The river is less obvious since we can’t get any draws to call (V will live for calling these draws and hitting, they’re gamblers) but we do get value from some Tx hands that outweigh 9x here and KK+ should 5b pre. I’d make an assumption that an aggro fish won’t often slow down with trips. We’ll only shove 1/4 pot and I think we can be good 50%+ of the time.
 
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Thank you for your inputs. Unfortunately I just checked behind and he showed [7d][6d]. He probably would have called a tiny value bet. But hopefully I will remember it for next time!
Like I said it depends on the villain, don't worry about getting tiny value from middle pair, the way he played this he has many hands that would call a shove so just put it in.
 
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