$5 NLHE 6-max: Call or fold in this spot

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/11/55

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $2.26
BTN: $2.66
Hero (SB): $5.38
BB: $3.34

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A:diamond: K:heart:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) A:heart: Q:heart: 7:club:
Hero bets $0.15, BB calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.60, 2 players) 3:spade:
Hero checks, BB bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($1.70, 2 players) J:club:
Hero checks, BB bets $2.49 and is all-in, fold
 
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ewww tricky, im probably calling it tho
 
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Just wondering why you gave up on the turn? I think the check/call there was a very week play and at that point the bb's push on the river was + for him as he could almost be sure you were not calling with the additional jack scare card. You played it like you were on a flush draw when you had TPTK.

In that situation if I'm not checking the turn, making a bet of probably 40c for pot control if nothing else, even his almost pot size bet looks like a bet to get you off the hand. Just my thoughts for sure but looks like you played it wrong from the turn with the check.
 
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Yes, I'm calling. I don't get why you didnt bet turn. We played it like we have some sort of SDV but not Ax.

Flop should be like 70% PSB then same OTT then jam river yourself :)
 
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I'm calling. I suppose he could have like weird 2 pair combinations, but other than that I'm not seeing it. U might lose in this spot when u call... But a call is plus EV overall
 
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its just a no brainer its a call u hold TPTK the flush didnt get there so if he had a set or 2pairs good for him but i dont see any reason for a fold.
 
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Cheers for the input so overall I played it pretty badly. Not sure why i checked the turn and then folded the river I knew it was call. Had hit a few coolers and could feel myself becoming to cautious checking back when I should be betting etc.

Thanks again everyone.
 
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I think you shouldn´t play check/call with a top pair top kicker in that kind of board.

In the flop you get TP/TK and the bet is correct.

In the turn, i don´t think the 3 in the make different the situation. You are the preflop aggressor and he called. Here, a card like the 3 probably is not in his range and you should have the best hand. Maybe his range be broadways, Ax, some high and medium PP and some suited connectors. Also, the board shows a flush draw and a straight draw, maybe if he has a draw, he would like a free card, probably he would not bet (but he did it). And finally, if he would have 33 (is not very probable, but let's assume it) with his set wouldn't bet as strong as he did it because he would like to extract more value of his monster.

Then, the Check/call in the turn isn't correct. The best line is a second barrel.

And finally in the river, is completed the straigh and again you check. Here you think probably he has something like the straight or two pairs or something better than your pair. But ¿Do you think he would have bet that size having the nuts? I don't think so. he would like to see your call and wouldn't go allin. the other hand is that he would have two pairs and the straight scares him, but one can't win all the hands. :)
Sorry for my english, i'm beginer :D
 
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its a fold

we have the Kh and the Ah is on the board discounting a few of his flush combos he literallray has to have JTs and J high busted FDs that didnt make 2P or be overbet value shoveing A6o here for us to be good..

the people are right though, just triple here x/cing turn is a bad move long term
 
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Who actually thinks a 24/11 is aggro enough to value shove AT here?

We can be sure as hell he ain't bluffing. 2P like almost all the time IMO.
 
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I think you should've check raised on the turn. You made yourself look very weak on the turn(which is a good thing) because you want to exploit that image to your villain for him to bluff at you when you actually have a hand. He probably thought you were doing a c-bet of one and done approach.
 
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Who actually thinks a 24/11 is aggro enough to value shove AT here?

We can be sure as hell he ain't bluffing. 2P like almost all the time IMO.

Good point and I went over some of the villains hands pretty passive overall and always turned up with the goods at the river. At 5nl I'm not sure people are bluffing enough in these spots to make it profitable.

I think the main advise is not to put myself in that spot. Betting turn and river I'm assuming is the optimal play here even if the villain hits 2 pair or better by the river, thats poker.
 
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Who actually thinks a 24/11 is aggro enough to value shove AT here?

We can be sure as hell he ain't bluffing. 2P like almost all the time IMO.
This is my opinion too. I am surprised that ppl consider calling here. At 5NL ppl play face up. That guy will not put up a stunt like this without 2 pairs or a set.
 
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I'm never calling it... My thinking is I've already made a mess of the hand?.. Why make a mess into a disaster? ... We can get this guy later, so many people overbet these days when they have a made hand. It's rarely a bluff these days so fold... If he's bluffing then we will get him eventually anyways.


I doubt he has the flush since he only called behind the flop... Perhaps i'm the only maniac but I always re-raise and make it potsize to get my value for the flush if it hits the turn. I'm pretty sure he has 2p min... Most likely a straight
 
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