$5 NLHE 6-max: Is call on the flop?

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 179.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 11)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 70.6 BB
UTG: 141 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 112.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 165.8 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 6.8 BB, fold, BTN calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (14.6 BB, 2 players) 2:heart: 4:heart: 5:heart:
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN raises to 172.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 83.2 BB and is all-in

Turn: (201 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:

River: (201 BB, 2 players) T:club:

You see well call on the flop?
I found very over bet the villain all in on the flop.
I thought that his range could be: over pair without any heart or any style ak aq kq hand with some heart and maybe set 55-44-22
I thought that against that range may have a 45 percent equity. I do not know if it is profitable pay with 45 percent of equity
 
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Well, what odds do you need for 45% to be profitable? Do you know or understand that part.

Your range assessment is decent there, now you just need to break down the math a bit.
 
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Thanks for your reply.
I was thinking and calculate for example, that for a whole pot bet 33 percent of equity is needed.
In the case of the hand I just did the calculation, I do not know if this well.
My account gave me I need 42 percent for the call is correct.
I 100/75 1.33333 ......
100 / 2.3333 ..... 42 percent
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I would fold I don't think opponents bluff on monotone boards enough, possibly semibluff, but likely you are flipping or beat.
 
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I would def add 88-QQ into his range as well. Especially if they have a heart.

I'm calling this off anyway.
 
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Pre-flop: Good play, JJ is definitely a raise SB v BTN, and the sizing is nice. We succeed in narrowing his range slightly, but the BTN is IP and your 3-betting range is wide so I imagine he'll be continuing with a wide range here. My standard range assignment for an unknown here (at its widest) is 22-KK, AJo-AQo, A2s-AQs, KQo, K6s+, Q9s+, J8s+, 54s+ and 64s+.


Flop: So this board is pretty damn wet. It's also a board where (if he continues) our opponent is far more likely to have a strong draw than a made hand. Because of this, we need to bet BIG in order to give him the chance to make a mistake. 10-12BB is fine.
Clearly, he has something when he raises us so large. This sort of raise size actually looks more like a draw than a set or OP to me, although they're still possible, of course. It looks like he's going for maximum fold equity. Had he a set, it would be much more likely we'd see a small bet, because he wants a call. I also think it's unlikely he has a flush already, as he'd probably just flat your bet here. The exception is if he has a flush that's vulnerable to another heart, like the 78 or so. Again though, I think he'd raise this smaller.
So I think we box flushes and sets into the 'less likely' category. All that really leaves are overpairs and heart draws. He may make this move with 88-QQ because he doesn't want to see another card when they're so vulnerable, and has panicked a little (fish do that all the time). He could also have a hand like AhQs or so.
This is going to be a call for me. If he has an overpair (with or without a heart) you're in great shape (seeing as QQ is unlikely, he would often 4-bet pre). If he has a flush draw, you're ahead (although if he also has 2 overs to your JJ) it's closer to a flip. If he has something in the 'less likely' box, you're behind but with plenty of outs. Any flushes he does this with will be lower than J-high, so any heart will do, and against sets you also have plenty of outs (heart that doesn't pair the board, or J).
Gotta be a call for me.
 
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I would fold, that flop hits his perceived range, usually when fishes overbet like this it means they have something very good. I think you might be slightly ahead of his range, but I don't like to put stacks in the middle in a coin flip.
 
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I would fold, that flop hits his perceived range, usually when fishes overbet like this it means they have something very good. I think you might be slightly ahead of his range, but I don't like to put stacks in the middle in a coin flip.

Couple of points with this. Firstly, do you really think this flop hits his perceived range? It does better than ours, but when he calls a 3-bet his range is weighted more to high cards than it would be in a single-raised pot. Not saying he can't have low cards, but it's just less likely.

Second, if we think it's a coin-flip, we have to call here. We need 41% equity in the hand for this to be a profitable call. That means if you think our equity is significantly higher than that (45%+) you should really call here.
 
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I would fold, that flop hits his perceived range, usually when fishes overbet like this it means they have something very good. I think you might be slightly ahead of his range, but I don't like to put stacks in the middle in a coin flip.

If you're slightly ahead then why not put stacks in? If you're scared of losing a 55% hand, then you're playing the wrong game.
 
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If you're slightly ahead then why not put stacks in? If you're scared of losing a 55% hand, then you're playing the wrong game.

Don't be so judgemental. Geez... Some people just don't like money, and that's ok. We're all different and unique in our own special way! :)
 
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Don't be so judgemental. Geez... Some people just don't like money, and that's ok. We're all different and unique in our own special way! :)

It's because we're all secretly degen :(
 
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Yeah this is a snap especially with Ah and Kh broadway hands will do this. Also lower pocket pairs and people who decide to make a move with gutters and monster draws.

even as low as 33 with a heart would do this.
 
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