$5 NLHE 6-max: Call this checkraise?

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YungJellie

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Hi guys, i was wondering if this is a +ev call i dont have much information on villian


PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 21.10, PFR: 14.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, hands: 113)
BB: 118.4 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 138.8 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 23)
MP: 227.6 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 23)
CO: 104.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 3)


SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K Q


fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB


Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 5 8 J
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 10.8 BB



Thanks in advance
 
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Absolutely call the flop.

If you hit your flush on the turn, you stand to make more than enough to pay for the small flop mistake.
 
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I'd be surprised if you get any responses advising a fold here.
 
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sorry, I'm not good at math
option1) villain is like me and is testing if you are not trying to steal the blinds with a bluff
option2) villain has something Axd is unlikely, but quite bad for you, other options a set, or QJ, KJ, AJ.

Simplified, you have roughly 20% chance of hitting a flush on the turn and you have to pay 7% of your stack, or 30% of the pot. The answer to your question: it's an easy call.

Just be aware that even with a flush you can get beaten by FH or the unlikely nut-flush.
 
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This is actually a decent spot for a raise (certainly not a fold).

Unless you somehow know his playing style well, his range is TPTK, two pair, and less likely, a set (55, 88).

At worst, you have 32% equity with the flush.
At best, you have 54% equity with higher pair or flush.

If you suspect that he'd fold two pair at least 15% of the time or call you with TPTK, raise is +EV.
 
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You know nothing about the villain, and check raise is a little bit of a weird line on this board. I agree that TPTK is in the range, but I think you have to include sets, overpairs, A8h, and air (depending on recent Cbet %). The bet sizing prices you in against everything but A8h, and that's such a small part of his range here that a call is almost mandatory.
 
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You never fold here. With better info, you can make an argument for a flop 3-bet, but in general, just call.
 
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This is actually a decent spot for a raise (certainly not a fold).

Unless you somehow know his playing style well, his range is TPTK, two pair, and less likely, a set (55, 88).

At worst, you have 32% equity with the flush.
At best, you have 54% equity with higher pair or flush.

If you suspect that he'd fold two pair at least 15% of the time or call you with TPTK, raise is +EV.

Genuine question, what's the point of the raise, build the pot for when you hit the flush? To fold out some better hands (TPTK)?


I feel like you fold out all his bluffs, other than semi bluffs (T9, Axd), and some better hands, but open yourself up to shoves from sets and better draws whilst getting called by overpairs+.


Think a raise may be overvaluing our equity here, leaves opponent with basically JJ,88,55,AdAh,AdAs,AdAc,J8s,T9s,AdJd,AdTd,Ad9d,Ad8d,9d8d,Ad7d,Ad6d,Ad5d,Ad4d,Ad3d,Ad2d


which has 67% equity against us.

Out of this, I would assume that everything but 55,AdAh,AdAs,AdAc,J8s,T9s would shove.
 
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Genuine question, what's the point of the raise, build the pot for when you hit the flush? To fold out some better hands (TPTK)?


Yes!


Your estimates are pretty much right in line with the one's I used (32% equity at worst), although I don't consider AA-JJ in his range. That's why I noted it's +EV IF you correctly estimate he'd fold a two pair or call with TPTK some portion of the time.


I am in no way advocating this as a standard play (I think calling is), but in addition to giving yourself a chance to win the pot there, you establish an aggressive style that narrows your opponents 3-bet range against you (if they're paying attention, of course).
 
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Easy call IP with 2nd NFD, BD straight draw and two overs. This is a rare situation in poker where no other option really makes any sense.
 
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