$5 NLHE 6-max: AQ vs 4-bet preflop & shove on flop

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Hero Starting stack: $14
Villain starting stack: $13.95

Hero looks down at AdQc from SB.
HJ open raises to 15¢.
Hero 3-bets to 50¢.
Villain from BB 4-bets to $1.35
HJ Folds. Hero tanks and calls.

Flop: As7d4h - $2.85
Hero is OOP and checks. Villain c-bets $1.57
Hero raises to $4
Villain shoves for $12.60, hero tanks and calls.


  1. Should hero call/fold/5-bet PREFLOP?
  2. Should hero bet/fold, bet/call, check/fold, or check raise the flop? - And why?
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the 4bet into 2 peoples pre looks strong, but it could be JJ+ i guess
im folding the 3bet shove on flop, its just too expensive for me

*i like it better w/o result included, add more thrills
 
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A cold 4 bet from the Big Blind should be a fold from you.
 
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that type of small 4-bet sizing usually means top of the range and sends off red flags for me. I think your flop action is good for the sole reason that you should be folding when villain jams which saves you more money (i think) than calling down.. Its a bit of a cooler situation in an online 100-150 bb 6-max situation because you block the bottom of a 4 bet range which would be AKo. but ask yourself: how often are are you personally bluff jamming JJ-KK on an ace high board or value jamming AJ? The answer shouldn't be very often, so your opponents wouldn't be either.

So... I like the raise hate the call
 
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the 4bet into 2 peoples pre looks strong, but it could be JJ+ i guess
im folding the 3bet shove on flop, its just too expensive for me

*i like it better w/o result included, add more thrills
So do you like that I put it in spoiler or should I not include it at all to keep readers guessing?

that type of small 4-bet sizing usually means top of the range and sends off red flags for me. I think your flop action is good for the sole reason that you should be folding when villain jams which saves you more money (i think) than calling down.. Its a bit of a cooler situation in an online 100-150 bb 6-max situation because you block the bottom of a 4 bet range which would be AKo. but ask yourself: how often are are you personally bluff jamming JJ-KK on an ace high board or value jamming AJ? The answer shouldn't be very often, so your opponents wouldn't be either.

So... I like the raise hate the call
So 3bet flop was good, but shouldn't call the jam?
 
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So do you like that I put it in spoiler or should I not include it at all to keep readers guessing?


So 3bet flop was good, but shouldn't call the jam?

Your raise of his initial bet on the flop was good, calling off his 3bet jam I think was bad. He has too few bluffs
 
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So do you like that I put it in spoiler or should I not include it at all to keep readers guessing?
dont include the final result at all to keep us readers guessing
 
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I can only comment PS zoom style

Calling 4bet is practically always a mistake especially OP, in theory you can bluff 5bet/fold with AQ, but 4bet bluffs are too rare in PS zoom 5NL to do that. However if meta is to fold AK, QQ- to 5bet bluffs then why not (given you are 150bb deep).

In 5NL zoom style on the flop you can call 2 streets, and fold river.

Raising flop especially when it’s so dry, is same than turning your hand to bluff, and with TPGK it’s quite wrong imo. As played when hero decides to call reraise, he is assuming villain is bluffing, now to call a bluff we need to assume he is doing it around 25% of the time and my guess is that he is doing it around 5% of the time, so we need to fold. In rare cases he has AJ or AT he will not usually push you all in, but just call.

Always think the worst hand villain would be doing something for value, if you can’t beat that hand you are only hoping villain is bluffing, and at least PS zoom 5NL big bluffs are rare, thus if you don’t beat at least a part of villain’s value range you mostly just fold.

dont include the final result at all to keep us readers guessing
+1
 
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It could be a pocket pair and a captured set on the flop... But the odds are very low, so with the older couple and the good kicker, I'd go to Allin.
 
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