$5 NLHE 6-max: AKs in BB vs limpage

$5 NL HE 6-max: AKs in BB vs limpage

Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
CO: $4.21 (84.2 bb)
BTN: $4.60 (92 bb)
SB: $4.83 (96.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $6.13 (122.6 bb)
MP: $0.45 (9 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.60) T 7 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BTN calls $0.45, SB folds
Turn: ($1.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero....

Not many reads on villian other than he's played 7/17 hands (41%), hasn't raised any of them preflop, and he's playing 5NL.

Let me know if I f*#k'd up at all, and what your plan would be now...

EDIT - I didn't write a very in-depth answer here sorry, I'll get back to ya tomorrow. Delete plz mod

I'm guessing he has a T and not a 7. I think you definitely should call, with any heart or a K or an A you still win -> or bluff reraise on the river

I'm not a fan of guessing.

My main question wasas whether people thought a bet or check was the best play on the turn and why.

hb

Likminutz said:

I'm not a fan of guessing.

My main question wasas whether people thought a bet or check was the best play on the turn and why.

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I would check-raise the turn... or better 66% pot bet first and not let him use his position.

Button's range is pretty huge here I think - has he called pf in situations like this before?

I like firing a second barrel on turn based on the strong draw, and re-raising any raise villain makes on the turn. I'm willing to get it all in here. Also, a favorable river could kill your action. I agree w Pafkata that villain is betting position here frequently.

Oh, and pf, I like raising bigger.

Pre-flop and flop is fine.

By the turn I think we have to assume 95% of the time he has either a ten, a seven, a smaller flush draw or 89. At the moment we're behind all of those except the smaller flush draw so check/calling a small bet is fine.

On the river, if we look at our outs....V's previous range, the Ace/King will only allow us to beat the tens and it's unlikely he will call a large bet if either drops. I think bet/fold about 40% of pot sounds about right imo.

If a heart drops bet/call 40% pot.

With the odds you're being given on the turn you could actually bet a lot less on the river and still have made the correct pot odds based decision. Even 50 cents shows profit lol.

As for betting the turn, it has it's merits but it's over-representing your hand a little bit and sets you up for raises from the 7's and 89 in his range...and TT. Also double barrelling doesn't help your pot odds when it comes to value betting a heart (and marginally A/K) on the river. It's a suicidal spot to bluff so check/raising would be a bit crazy since there's very little you can represent here and it is 5nl.

You played it fine so far.

WossaPotOddz said:

Pre-flop and flop is fine.

By the turn I think we have to assume 95% of the time he has either a ten, a seven, a smaller flush draw or 89. At the moment we're behind all of those except the smaller flush draw so check/calling a small bet is fine.

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You dont think a fishy 5nl villain has a wider range then that?
Isnt that a litle tight?
Imo his range is way wider then that, prolly as wide as any T,any 7,22-99,FDs,89 and a bunch of over cards and maybe even some gutshoot because he thinks this flop didnt hit us.

WossaPotOddz said:

On the river, if we look at our outs....V's previous range, the Ace/King will only allow us to beat the tens and it's unlikely he will call a large bet if either drops.

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Villain is a 41/0(granted over small sample) 5nl fish and if he has a T i think he is almost allways calling us even if a heart/A/K hits imo.


I like double barraling the turn because i think villains range is huge here and we have decent equity against it.
If we barrel villain is might fold some hands that beat us(22-66) and might still call us with worse(smaller FDs) and it makes it alot easier to get stacks in on the river, and im def stacking the river if we hit a A/K/H.

After we check the turn im not really sure, c/c and betting a A/K/H river is probably what i would do but im almost always double barraling here some im not sure if c/c any good here.
Its probably c/c>c/r(cause villain will probably fold alot and we still got outs,most of times)>c/f.

And yeah i agree with Sly, i raise bigger here prf, like .30.

Appreciate the responses!

First off, I was wondering if people like raising PF more here because this is 5NL or if it's because we are in the blinds. In other words, do you guys usually raise it up higher PF when you're OOP for the rest of the hand?

I like all the arguments, but I think I like the double barrel best. I think he's only reraising me here w/ 7's, 10's, and a straight for what is in his range, but his range is much wider than that. Sly, this is one reason I don't like getting it all in here on a semi-bluff...I don't think he's reraising me light here, and he's never folding once he has reraised me. Would you disagree?

If I bet he calls w/ flush draws (reverse implied odds for him), possibly overcards/gutshots if he's that stubborn and he has the chance to fold hands that have showdown value like the weaker pocket pairs he would otherwise check behind. Betting also has the benefit of disguising our hand a little better if we do hit the flush.

Likminutz said:

Appreciate the responses!

First off, I was wondering if people like raising PF more here because this is 5NL or if it's because we are in the blinds. In other words, do you guys usually raise it up higher PF when you're OOP for the rest of the hand?

I like all the arguments, but I think I like the double barrel best. I think he's only reraising me here w/ 7's, 10's, and a straight for what is in his range, but his range is much wider than that. Sly, this is one reason I don't like getting it all in here on a semi-bluff...I don't think he's reraising me light here, and he's never folding once he has reraised me. Would you disagree?

I'm having a tough time figuring out what button could have that we don't have pretty good equity against - we're obv drawing dead to TT, 77, and 66, all hands that he could've called pf to your raise - we've got 9 outs against the straight, 8 or 9 outs against trips, and up to 15 outs against any other hand. I think he's most likely to have one of the hands that have 8+ outs rather than a full house (and tip my hat after losing my stack if he does ). If we lead the turn for say $1.20 - $1.40, almost any reasonable raise he would make would put him close to all in, and I think we end up having correct odds to just put the rest in. If he raises, I agree, we're behind and dependent on hitting a favorable river - but I can't imagine folding to that raise, nor simply calling a raise (maybe a minraise, though I'd probably still be inclined to just get it in).

If I bet he calls w/ flush draws (reverse implied odds for him), possibly overcards/gutshots if he's that stubborn and he has the chance to fold hands that have showdown value like the weaker pocket pairs he would otherwise check behind. Betting also has the benefit of disguising our hand a little better if we do hit the flush.

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My thinking is in bold above - not necessarily correct, just my thinking...