$5 NLHE 6-max: AI with KK vs flush draw on flop

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 16/5/2

Was there anything wrong with my betting or would you have done the same thing? Thanks for your oppinions!

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $4.94 (VPIP: 24.05, PFR: 15.82, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, hands: 160)
BB: $5.88 (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 12.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 93)
UTG: $5.45 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 43)
MP: $2.07 (VPIP: 15.25, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
Hero (CO): $8.13
BTN: $6.19 (VPIP: 29.51, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 9.41, Hands: 189)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♥ K♣

UTG calls $0.05, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, SB calls $0.23, fold, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.80, 3 players) 7♠ 4♣ 8♠
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.25, fold, UTG raises to $4.55, Hero raises to $7.88 and is all-in, UTG calls $0.65 and is all-in

Turn: ($11.20, 2 players) 6♠

River: ($11.20, 2 players) Q♥

I don't think the overbet on flop is necessary. 80% of pot would have been fine.

Do you think he raises here with anything worse? Given his hand, you were basically even money, so it's not a terrible call. Against a flopped straight or set, you're a long way behind and never in a good spot.

Only 43 hands for his stats, but he looks passive. Facing a raise like that against someone who is running around 19/8, I don't think you should be calling with an overpair. Make sure you take a note on him, and move on.

Yeah I don't like the bet sizing on the flop.

When villain raises, you could potentially be facing straights, sets, 2p, and draws. I have not looked at the spoiler yet....


You could have accomplished the same thing by betting 3/4 pot. You have 1 pair.


Bet smaller on the flop. Do not reraise if villain raises your flop c-bet. Just call and see the turn and reevaluate on the turn (folding is not terrible either IMO). From villains stats he seems passive somewhat, so you should seriously consider his range before spazzing out with 1 pair.



So to sum up my opinions....

Raise 4x preflop, not 5x.
You bet too big on the flop. Bet 3/4~full pot.
I would probably like to fold the flop, but I don't know if I could. Board is pretty draw heavy, so we could be ahead of villain (probably never by a lot though).

Villain did raise huge OTF. It screams sets, 2p, or straight to me (haven't checked spoiler yet). You don't even have Ks for back door FD.....


Just some food for thought.

I don't think 4x vs 5x pre- matters very much. Indeed, if I think the opponents will call more, I'm also okay with making it more.

I don't understand the overbet on the flop? What was this intended to accomplish that wouldn't have been accomplished by betting as little as maybe 60 cents?

Then, what was the reasoning behind shoving after you were check-raised? What do you think his range is, especially after taking into account that he might have taken a different line with some hands you're ahead of. For instance, he might have simply led out with a smaller overpair or even a set, which reduces the probability that he has those holdings. .

Everything that has already been stated. Normal bet size on flop, then flop raise, and try your best not to overplay an overpair when he bets this turn card.

If I had the Ks, I would probably peel the turn and end up throwing my monitor out the window if I hit a flush on the river because I couldn't fold to a shove.

EDIT: Oh, and make sure you make a note how he plays Axs pre + nfd on the flop.

Looks good.. pre-flop is fine. If you're getting 3-way a lot, even going 6x to get it heads up when there's a limper might be good. Flop, you can probably just pot it, but I don't mind the sizing that much. The rest plays itself out.

If you make a standard cbet of ~.60 and villain pots you like he did as played the raise would have been $2.60, I think you could have just called the raise and got away from it on the turn when the 3rd spade hit. You have to include AsX and Axs in his limp calling range. Here is just a range that I came up with. Someone better than me at constructing hand ranges may come along and give you better insight but this can get you started.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 8s4c7s
equity Win Tie
MP2 69.35% 68.80% 0.54% { 88-77, 44, AsTs, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s }
MP3 30.65% 30.11% 0.54% { KhKc }

Equity Win Tie
MP2 50.30% 49.98% 0.32% AsTs, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s
MP3 49.70% 49.38% 0.32% KhKc

nutzpayz said:

If you make a standard cbet of ~.60 and villain pots you like he did as played the raise would have been $2.60, I think you could have just called the raise and got away from it on the turn when the 3rd spade hit. You have to include AsX and Axs in his limp calling range. Here is just a range that I came up with. Someone better than me at constructing hand ranges may come along and give you better insight but this can get you started.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 8s4c7s
Equity Win Tie
MP2 69.35% 68.80% 0.54% { 88-77, 44, AsTs, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s }
MP3 30.65% 30.11% 0.54% { KhKc }

Equity Win Tie
MP2 50.30% 49.98% 0.32% AsTs, JsTs, As9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s
MP3 49.70% 49.38% 0.32% KhKc

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Made a mistake and included the As8s and As7s in the ranges, but that doesn't change the equity.

Thanks for your input guys! Very helpful to look on a hand like that from all those various aspects. Like!