$5 NLHE 6-max: Aces 3 way, facing lots of turn action 3 way.

Ok,

Both players are fishy, like playing 50% of hands or so..

I was ready for getting my stack in vs one of them on the turn and expected to have it HU on the turn, however wasn't expecting a c/r by the short stack.

Now, BB ISO shoves, now this could indeed be Qx or so..question is, the way the hand has played out, I know we probs have the odds to call but meh..seems like we might be beat quite often here..


Can we consider folding the turn, or or does the BB iso shove make it easier to call it off?

Thoughts?



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saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (CO) ($15.81)
Button ($8.18)
SB ($2.41)
BB ($4)
UTG ($6.53)
MP ($8.74)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A , A
2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) 7 , Q , 3 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.29, Hero calls $0.29, SB calls $0.29

Turn: ($1.32) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90, SB raises to $1.80, BB raises to $3.56 (All-In), Hero ?

Fold imo but you should've raised the flop

bgomez89 said:

Fold imo but you should've raised the flop

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Why would you of raised the flop? ~Last thing I want, is to push out Qx hands.

The board is very dry, it's the turn that is quite interesting based on the bigger stack betting/SS check/jamming and then bigger stack ISO jamming me.

Question is: Is SS check jamming twopair+? and is oher stack ISO shoving a random Qx hand or is he jamming the "nuts"

You're rarely good on the turn, 78, Q8, sets all likely from these fish. Raising flop is good because fish don't fold top pair

It's actually closer than you guys are saying but I think folding is good. Calling off here getting 3-1ish isn't terrible since they're both fish. If they both had 100 BBs then calling off would be pretty bad.

A lot depends on BB's donking range, which I assume is pretty damn strong, hence raising the flop is probably bad.

lol. Autorebuy is off and the fact that OP said they're both fishy tells me that the donk does not limit bb to having a crazy strong range. That being said, neither of these guys will fold Qx because people dont fold top pair.

2 blinds playing 50% each? .20 to .25 preflop

Raise flop.

I call turn.

WVHillbilly said:

2 blinds playing 50% each? .20 to .25 preflop

Raise flop.

I call turn.

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I agree. Raise the flop. Especially if they're fishes. Med-raise can easily be interpreted as not wanting to give up the pot you opened. Flatting the flop gives you no info. And stuck on the turn. If you were good on the flop the turn is not a scare card.

WVHillbilly said:

2 blinds playing 50% each? .20 to .25 preflop

Raise flop.

I call turn.

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I mostly agree -- though I think raising vs. flatting the flop can be debated. I'm definitely raising/getting it in on the turn though.

I think people are giving these fish too much credit for the strength of their ranges. Any Qx from two fishtards plays this way, and theres a whole bunch of draws on the turn I see playing this way or calling off their stack as well. IMO, I think we have >60% equity on this turn, so I happily get it in here.