$5 NLHE 6-max: AA again, was this correct?

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 51/6/2

Villain is pretty passive so I didn't want to raise his small turn and river bets.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 91.8 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, hands: 26)
CO: 44.2 BB (VPIP: 51.02, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 51)
Hero (BTN): 122 BB
SB: 20.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 115.4 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ A♠

fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 9♣ 4♠ 5♠
CO bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 10.6 BB, CO calls 6.6 BB

Turn: (30.6 BB, 2 players) 2♠
CO bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (38.6 BB, 2 players) J♦
CO bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, CO calls 0 BB
 
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Villain is not bet sizing well. It's more likely (especially given his stats) that he is just a bad player than that you are being trapped. I would have raised slightly bigger on the flop (maybe to 12-14BB), re-raised again on the turn, and probably shoved him in on the river given the opportunity.
 
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Much larger preflop, much larger flop raise.

Turn or River I raise as well. And an AF of 2 isn't that passive, especially for a VPIP of 50ish.
 
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c9, are you advocating raising larger preflop because of the villain's VPIP and you think he'll get called on a larger raise, or are you suggesting a larger raise in general here regardless of opponent?
 
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Sohmurr said:
c9, are you advocating raising larger preflop because of the villain's VPIP and you think he'll get called on a larger raise
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That one. But a little of the second one too because people at 5NL suck.
 
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You shall raise more on the turn... 4BB is just the same as checking.
 
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tomnovember said:
You shall raise more on the turn... 4BB is just the same as checking.
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I would also have raised the turn there, any strong hand would have donk bet bigger at least on the turn if not on the flop - villain probably has top pair or weak draw so wants to see the river for cheap price therefore we suggest raise.

There is nothing wrong with your pre flop raise though, just because you have a monster hand does not mean you make bigger raises pre flop. That raise has to be standard +1 big blind for every limper. So if a standard raise is 3bb then your 4bb raise is correct. :top:
 
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Since we have the A's of Spades we shouldn't be worried about the flush. Given how loose the villain has played and we have a straight & flush draw, shouldn't we shove the turn. or is that too much?
 
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Preflop is fine, Flop I raise to 12bb, also raise turn and flat the river because if he is still in the hand then raising the river is pretty thin. You only have a pair after all.
 
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suby_rafael said:
I would also have raised the turn there, any strong hand would have donk bet bigger at least on the turn if not on the flop - villain probably has top pair or weak draw so wants to see the river for cheap price therefore we suggest raise.

There is nothing wrong with your pre flop raise though, just because you have a monster hand does not mean you make bigger raises pre flop. That raise has to be standard +1 big blind for every limper. So if a standard raise is 3bb then your 4bb raise is correct. :top:
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Yes. And also, the call on river is just kind of weak play that can hardly get any value from the villain.
 
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Raise on all streets.

And raise it big.
 
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With the As, given his stats and stack size it's an easy raise, then get it in.
 
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This is 5NL and the thing with being correct raising to 4BB because it is "standard" is BS. Villain is a fish. Raise harder preflop and bet, bet, bet postflop. You have a monster and you want maximum value from the fish. You can worry about standard at 25NL and above. Do not worry about your image at this lvl because others sure do not.
 
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I think you played the flop wrong but pre flop is a standard bet. You do not want to scare your customer off here.
On the flop I would have gone to about 20 to make him pay if he is on the flush draw or inside straight draw. If he calls then you can be pretty sure that is what he is chasing.
 
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swingro said:
This is 5NL and the thing with being correct raising to 4BB because it is "standard" is BS. Villain is a fish. Raise harder preflop and bet, bet, bet postflop. You have a monster and you want maximum value from the fish. You can worry about standard at 25NL and above. Do not worry about your image at this lvl because others sure do not.
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Preflop he has a monster but post flop all he has is a pair. Hardly a monster.
 
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IPlay said:
Preflop he has a monster but post flop all he has is a pair. Hardly a monster.
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Correct! Too aggressive play may diminish the potential value and increase the risks.
 
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Wow i cannot belive the last 2 posts. That is a huge fish. It is unlikely he has something on any board. Having top pair is good enough but and overpair like Aces is as good as it can be. If we play this the right way we take the fish stack. Do not be afraid that fish will catch something. The number of times he has a cra..py hand is way higher than the number of times when he actually hits.
 
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