$5 NLHE 6-max: A3s 3-handed in min-3bet pot. Flop TP & NFD

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The table had recently become short-handed, only 3 players left. I knew very little about villain as he had only recently sat down.

Preflop:
Hero (100bb) is BTN with As3s

Hero raise to 3bb, fold, BB (100bb) raise to 5bb, Hero call

Flop (10.5bb): AcJs9s
BB bet 5bb, Hero call

Turn (20.5bb): Jd
BB bet 20bb, Hero call

River (60.5bb): Kc
BB all-in, Hero ??

I don't know if raising the flop would have been better or not. Also, is there potentially some merit to 4betting pre?
 
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No point in 4 betting pre when you are getting such a good price and have position. As played, fold turn.
 
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No point in 4 betting pre when you are getting such a good price and have position. As played, fold turn.
He means the river, he didn'the see the spade draw.
 
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like he said it serves really no purpose to 4 bet. With the flop you were able to call but pretty much after that you could have basically waived the white flag because only a spade was going to help you in this hand.
 
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I'd be folding the turn, personally. Your ace is obviously not strong enough. The board paired which also did two things to you. 1: you no longer have the outs with your 3 to hit 2 pair (though it is questionable that even that would have been strong enough. judging from the villains line, probably not) and 2: if you are against a set or two pair that became a full house, your flush draw is drawing dead.

So basically on the turn you are banking on a flush draws and maybe and ace while facing pot sized bet when there is a moderate chance you are drawing dead.
 
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He means the river, he didn'the see the spade draw.

I know he is asking about river but he should not be calling a pot sized turn bet let alone a river shove. But thanks for the helpful post.
 
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I know he is asking about river but he should not be calling a pot sized turn bet let alone a river shove. But thanks for the helpful post.
If you put any bluff in his range, we have 45% equity... trips & full houses are hard to make. I'll ignore implied odds since the board is paired. We don't know anything about this guy, except that he sat down at a short handed table and made a raise that hints at him not knowing what he's doing. I'm not ready to credit him with having the super nuts.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
2,024 trials (Exhaustive)
board: AJ 9 J
As3s 45.11% (875 wins, 76 ties)
AK, AQ, AA, JJ, AJ, KJ, KQ 54.89% (1,073 wins, 76 ties)
 
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If you put any bluff in his range, we have 45% equity... trips & full houses are hard to make. I'll ignore implied odds since the board is paired. We don't know anything about this guy, except that he sat down at a short handed table and made a raise that hints at him not knowing what he's doing. I'm not ready to credit him with having the super nuts.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
2,024 trials (Exhaustive)
board: AJ 9 J
As3s 45.11% (875 wins, 76 ties)
AK, AQ, AA, JJ, AJ, KJ, KQ 54.89% (1,073 wins, 76 ties)

Yeah, I am wrong. Call down with Top pair no kicker in 3 bet pots, it is apparently the winning strat here.

Cute that you put KQ in his range but leave out hands like A10 to make your math seem correct. You are being delusional here.
 
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If AT is in his range (which I left out because the pot was 3-bet) this is an insta-call. DUCY?
 
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If AT is in his range (which I left out because the pot was 3-bet) this is an insta-call. DUCY?

He does not 3 bet A10, yet he 3 bets KQ and KJ? I think it is more likely that villain 3 bets a suited Ace in this spot over KJ. Again, you need to rethink the range you are assigning here and stop trying to contort it to make yourself seem correct.
 
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