$5 NLHE 6-max: A3 str8 vs river shove

villain: 23/0 but only 13 hands
He's basically repping just the flush and he shouldn't have bluffs in his range. AXs should be the biggest part of his range. Is it ok to b/f on river or is it weak?


IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $5.96 (119.2 bb)
MP: $3.35 (67 bb)
CO: $4.69 (93.8 bb)
BTN: $1.33 (26.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.36 (107.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 4 A 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70) K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

River: ($1.40) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $4.30 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $3.20 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: 4 A 2 K 5
BB mucked and won $3.04 ($1.44 net)
Hero mucked 3 A and lost (-$1.60 net)

Looks like a flush to me so unless I know he is a blufftard I am folding.

I like to check these rivers and bluffcatch.

LD1977 said:

Looks like a flush to me so unless I know he is a blufftard I am folding.

I like to check these rivers and bluffcatch.

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don't do that

well played

Bet more on the turn

i didn't want him to fold worse hands on turn and he's Ax in his range as well. But yeah I could've gone for more, thanks for the comments

Wow, im surprised you guys are folding here. I think i might be calling here. There is no reason to believe he has a flush (except the fact that hes shoving river lol). But since its a backdoor flush and he calls flop, he might have AK or something similar. Why does he have to have the flush here?

So when someone shoves a backdoor flush we fold straights as default?

Im skeptical as to whether this is a good fold or not.

why would he not raise AK on turn. raising AK on river would be quite bad imo, 5d is one of the worst river cards

vinylspiros said:

Wow, im surprised you guys are folding here. I think i might be calling here. There is no reason to believe he has a flush (except the fact that hes shoving river lol). But since its a backdoor flush and he calls flop, he might have AK or something similar. Why does he have to have the flush here?

So when someone shoves a backdoor flush we fold straights as default?

Im skeptical as to whether this is a good fold or not.

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At 5NL a massive overshove for a full stack is the nuts. He either hit a flush, hit a better straight, or hit a set. We don't have proper odds to call and pray it's the set.

Aleksei said:

At 5NL a massive overshove for a full stack is the nuts. He either hit a flush, hit a better straight, or hit a set. We don't have proper odds to call and pray it's the set.

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This is good advice, no doubt. but ive seen fish play 2 pairs this way. Sets(which we beat) and aldo the same straight we have.


But yea against thinking villains this is probs a fold.

it's more of a fold vs. non-thinking villains.

baudib1 said:

it's more of a fold vs. non-thinking villains.

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Exactly.

Also I don't think thinking villains do this almost ever.

vinylspiros said:

This is good advice, no doubt. but ive seen fish play 2 pairs this way. Sets(which we beat) and aldo the same straight we have.


But yea against thinking villains this is probs a fold.

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I do not think he is thinking too much. A shove means the nuts. No one will think he is bluffing unless the other guy has the nuts himself. So eather he looses his stack or he collects nothing. A minraise on the river will probabely be called . A shove not that much.

vinylspiros said:

This is good advice, no doubt. but ive seen fish play 2 pairs this way. Sets(which we beat) and aldo the same straight we have.


But yea against thinking villains this is probs a fold.

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They don't generally play two pair this way with a four straight on the board though. b/f here is pretty standard on the river.