$5 NLHE 6-max: (5nl) KQo in sb 3-way vs. two fish

weldphaser

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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP: $8.13 (VPIP: 48.24, PFR: 14.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.99, hands: 205)
CO: $8.89 (VPIP: 47.50, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 21.05, Hands: 43)
BTN: $7.25 (VPIP: 21.28, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
Hero (SB): $7.34
BB: $38.66 (VPIP: 46.25, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 84)
UTG: $6.53 (VPIP: 25.35, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 72)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Ks Qd
fold, MP calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05

Flop : ($0.50, 5 players) 5d 2s Qs
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.32, fold, Hero calls $0.32, BB calls $0.32, fold

Turn : ($1.46, 3 players) Jh
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.92, Hero calls $0.92, BB calls $0.92

River :

OK, so pre i'm no 3b 'ing first because they aren't folding, not even one of them i gather, and i don't wanna bloat a pot oop 3- way. right???

Flop: i pretty much make up my mind OTF here that i'll c/c the Turn & river provided non-spades, and an A would slow me down too I suppose vs. these nuts.

Turn: Jh surely isn't the best card , but not nearly bad, but i'm really expecting BB to fold, when he calls the turn the pot starts blowing up im getting a little worried even though i know that the CO's range is wide , and so is the BB calling range.

I'm going to assign ranges to the two, but i wanted advice on what we do on a brick river?
 
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This is a tight spot. As you pointed out, the pot is becoming bloated and our hand is only decent. Obviously if a spade falls you are going to pretty much be done with the hand. However, I think we should be checking on the river no matter what card comes. (except for a K or Q). I just don't see a ton of value in leading on the river even if it is a brick. If one or both of your opponents are drawing, they won't call a river bet with the missed draw. Checking may also induce a bluff from the CO with a busted draw. Leading into 2 opponents with just top pair can get you into trouble. So I think just checking and calling is the better choice when a brick hits the river.
 
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3 bet pre vs a 47/22 CO PF min raise. A HUGE 3 bet too and they will fold a lot more often then you think.

Since you said they hate folding though, I am raising this wet flop and expect to be called by draws, and weaker Qx and obviously sometimes AQ, KK+
 
Aces2w1n

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Fold or raise OOP we dont want to be mw oop
 
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Yep, fold or 3-bet pre. Flop I prefer leading out. Betting turn. And check/folding river. As played, calling turn against splashy fish, but not loving it. Check/folding river if he shows anymore aggression.
 
Aces2w1n

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Saw this again, just because they are such bad players.

It's obvious you should just 3bet and then just get into a stacking off mode soon as we hit.

Generally top pair against these guys will be enough and very profitable.

1. Very rare they outkick us, they play so much junk.
2. You'll be surprised what they will call you down with, generally any medium pocket pair.
3. Their thought process I got 2 cards I want to play and be part of the action! :)... recreational players just fooling around it seems, and you know the fun part is you might stack em, but chances are they become stuck and you'll get it all back plus some after unless the other reg beats u.
4. Nice fish market! :) ( I don't know just wanted to add that in because the table is so juicy)
 
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