$5 NLHE 6-max: 55 hit set on turn and villain donk shoves river

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 16/10/0.5

Do you ever find a call in this situation? I'm not exactly sure how and what range I should put him here and obviously that leads to a lot of problems.

I'm confused...

I have 60 hands on the villain and he is 16/10/0.5

And for the sake of making this more interesting, if the villain was LAGgy or Maniac, can you ever make a +EV call here?

Poker Stars - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em (5 players)
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SB: $5
BB: $2.62
UTG: $5.14
CO: $5.42
BTN Hero: $5.07

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN and dealt :5s4: :5h4:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.18, BB folds

Flop: ($0.45) :ah4: :8h4: :qd4: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.95) :ah4: :8h4: :qd4: :5d4: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90

River: ($2.75) :ah4: :8h4: :qd4: :5d4: :3d4: (2 players)
SB bets $3.65 (All-in), Hero calls $3.65
 
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BTN vs Blind I'm never folding here. I mean a Backdoor FD is the only thing he's repping and no one hits BD flushes right???
 
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He wouldn't take this line with AK AJ diamonds? Oh wait. He checked flop and turn. Now I'm confused about his hand so I blindly call.
 
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He wouldn't take this line with AK AJ diamonds?
AJdd maybe but AK would have 3bet preflop 99% of the time. So we're going to worry about 2 combos of BDFDs (AJdd/KJdd) when he could take this line with 2pair+?
 
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2 pair, busted FD's, even Ax spazzing out. call
 
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The river bet size is what worries me here.

Since he bets over pot, it means we must have stronger hand to call no? And I'm not sure if set is strong enough here.
 
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I'd probably snap. He could be doing this with two pairs and bluffs and smaller sets
 
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Never folding, ok he will have the rare flush that got there, but this is busted heart draws, and 2pair tons.
 
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Welcome to the forum. Someone with 0.5 AF donk shoves river. I'd still call because our hands is kinda underrepped (would take the same line w/ AK for example), however I don't think it's as clear cut as fist-pumping snap call because a lot of the things we beat here (two pair, lower sets) would raise turn because of the double flush draw. A passive player also would see the flush come in and wouldn't think "what a good card to bluff" they'd think "oh no, he always has a flush here". So i'm thinking its not as +ev as i first though
 
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Welcome to the forum. Someone with 0.5 AF donk shoves river. I'd still call because our hands is kinda underrepped (would take the same line w/ AK for example), however I don't think it's as clear cut as fist-pumping snap call because a lot of the things we beat here (two pair, lower sets) would raise turn because of the double flush draw. A passive player also would see the flush come in and wouldn't think "what a good card to bluff" they'd think "oh no, he always has a flush here". So i'm thinking its not as +ev as i first though

If it was the hearts that got there I would agree but he has only a couple of made flush combos.
 
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surely he has more diamond combos than hearts

Axdd
KTdd
KJdd
JTdd
 
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There are a lot of GS on that board and all of the diamond GS got there.

I dont think its correct to cbet here as I dont think much folds.
 
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I supersnap call and expect to be beat.

Does he play AQ this way? If he does, obviously we call. I'm not sure that he does.
 
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Does he play AQ this way? If he does, obviously we call. I'm not sure that he does.

I doubt he does on that board.

I would expect even really passive guys to raise the turn here (they are all scared of FDs)
 
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