$5 NLHE 6-max: $5 NLHE 6-max: Set over set. Cooler or what?

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swingro

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Villain was a TAG.

poker stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

MP ($5.76)
CO ($5.72)
Button ($8.77)
SB ($5.02)
BB ($2.77)
Hero (UTG) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4
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, 4
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Hero raises $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 4
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, 5
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, 10
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.17) K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, MP raises $5.26 (All-In), Hero calls $3.65 (All-In)

River: ($10.17) 2
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.17

Results below:
Hero had 4
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, 4
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(three of a kind, fours).
MP had 5
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, 5
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(three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: MP won $10.51
 
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Err yeah that'll happen sometimes.
 
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I don't know whether raising from UTG is good or not. I've been just folding these small pairs when UTG, but I have no idea what is correct.

Good flop bet, most of villains draws will call us, I might have made it more due to the fact that there are 2 villains in the hand and we are thus more likely to run into flush draws/ straight draws.

I like the bet on the turn as well, we can probably make it a bit bigger as villain will be on a nut flush draw here a lot and won't want to fold it. When villain ships I think we have to call, KT is definitely in their range and they may have floated something on the flop that picked up the back door flush draw. Without more specific reads on villain it's really hard to fold here.
 
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Set over set just socks bcoz when you're behind, it's pretty much over. I've ran into a situation like this before but I've also gotten myself out of one as well. Good play, especially keeping the bet sizing consistent and not over the top until the shove.
 
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So it was a cooler or bad play? how many times is he showing up here with something i beat? Is he ever shoving top pair, 2 pairs or a monster draw on the turn?
 
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Cooler unless you only think he shoves sets+ here but I would have to be 100% sure..cooler tho
 
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Eh, I'd just write it off as a cooler at these stakes. There are a lot of hands that you're beating that he shoves with. For example, KT, K5, 54, and some combo draws JsTs and QsTs, and perhaps QsJs. All in all, I think you're generally making money calling his shove on the turn.
 
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I don't know whether raising from UTG is good or not. I've been just folding these small pairs when UTG, but I have no idea what is correct.

At 6-max definitely raise.
 
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Set over set under any circumstances is a cooler and very tough to get away from - i would say almost impossible, since the possibility of it happening is very less.

Only chance is if the board has a one card straight or flush but other wise it is not easy to fold these so i consider such situations as cooler. :p
 
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basically never fold a set
 
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From what I can see you played this hand well!

Raising UTG with 44 is not a must but I usually do it. My range from EP is monster, pocket par or a suited connector. And when they call me I think they got a good hand so when I flop a set or a flush draw I think I got alot of implied odds. If I instead decide to raise KJ utg I will be dominated a large % of the time and when I hit I dont want to get stacks in

OTF you C-bet ofc. If you missed and you think your opponents could fold any non paird hand I would C-bet aswell, but on this flop I think they will float with alot of Ax or Kx hands.But now you are light years ahead of hes C-brt calling range.

OTT you keep on betting. You are still ahead of many of hes calling ranges. Like any king or any T most likely. ( its only 5NL you know :) ) When he re-raises all-in you will need to call. You are getting good odds, there are plenty of draws out there that he could have shoved with and you could be up agains KQ, becuse its 5NL you need to add some silly comcos into your opponents range.

well played overall imo. Better luck next time :)
 
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