$5 NLHE 6-max: 109s 3bet from BB facing a 2/3 turn bet

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I'd say the only decent player at the table at that time. Did fold to a bluff by a fish though

pokerstars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 77.2 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 25)
MP: 107.8 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
CO: 54 BB (VPIP: 42.19, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 65)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 222 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9c Tc
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop : (16.4 BB, 2 players) Ts 5h 6s
Hero bets 8 BB, MP calls 8 BB

Turn : (32.4 BB, 2 players) 9s
Hero checks, MP bets 20 BB, Hero?
 
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I dont like donking flop.... id rather raise turn.

We get no info donking flop and many will peel at least one street
 
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Sorry ur right... well regardless doesnt change much


Think of our perceived range aka Ax. When people call flop they can have pocket pair or chasing str or flushes


When it comes to turn your better raising... if ur infront he folds and we protect or it can go check check.. if we call then most likely have to call another bet on river making it more expensive.

So yeh cheaper to raise turn then to call 2 bets for same result.... plus u get As or Ks calling an xtra street
 
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Well, I think this is an easy call? I might not have bet that flop , I don't want a huge pot out of position with a pair of tens, but now that we've improved to top two our hand is much stronger. He could have an overpair or a set, maybe AT or QJ or a suited ace of spades, I doubt he has 78 here but maybe, and regardless we have outs to the nuts. I think we can call here and then make a decision on the river. I'm not a fan of raising, I think calling is lower risk (if he reraises I think we need to fold) and may entice him to bet the river with a failed draw.
 
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I also think calling is your only option on the turn. Your hand is way to strong to fold to a single bet but not strong enough to raise for value on this board against a tight player.
Don't think this is a really difficult decision to be honest.
I think on the flop checking and betting are both fine. You can check for pot control oop. But betting is good too in ordner to protect your hand. He can have a few draws on this board or just two random overcards like AQ,AJ. So you don't want to give your opponent a free card in this situation.

It will be more difficult to decide how to react on the river.
 
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The bet sizes are quite interesting. Not saying its wrong, but your 3bet size is polarizing to weak or KK+, your CB size is mostly weak. 9Ts is quite strong hand you could call it too and not 3bet, if you 3bet you want folds because out of position sucks with this hand.
 
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3-bet larger. As played check flop. As played bet turn. As played call turn.

Not a fan of any street in this hand. You check the flop because you want pot control and for your opponent to make the bigger mistake. You bet the turn because you want to continue for value, since you won't get a ton of bluffs in this spot after someone calls that flop. But you will get a lot of overcard missed value when people have XxXs.
 
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Thanks.
V made a snap call on the flop & a snap bet on the turn. For some reason I folded the hand with top 2 pair. :confused:
 
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I don't mind the preflop sizing cuz if the other guy was a fish(just assuming) you want him to call when you have T9s so that's okay but the post flop sizing is pretty bad you need to bet at least 3/4th pot, you can bet 1/2 on maybe AAK board or 222 board to look super nuted even then idk, but gotta bet more post and definitely call the turn and fold river, cuz you wanna have a call fold range so that opponents bluff you on the river, and even though that range shouldn't be super wide this definitely fills in to that
 
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T9s is whatever to 3b here but I think calling is better.

AP betting flop is alright but check/calling is ok too.

AP bet turn. We get value from almost all of his single spade hands and some pairs that are now gut shots. Also not folding to a raise in a 3 bet pot. I can't fathom why you check fold top two here. Are you only continuing with flushes?
 
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i think you made a good fold, he could have easily had flush or pocket nines. both reasonable hands that would only call on flop then raise on turn, and call the raise pre-flop.
 
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T9s is whatever to 3b here but I think calling is better.

AP betting flop is alright but check/calling is ok too.

AP bet turn. We get value from almost all of his single spade hands and some pairs that are now gut shots. Also not folding to a raise in a 3 bet pot. I can't fathom why you check fold top two here. Are you only continuing with flushes?

Consider it as a gut feeling. For some reason I felt he had it.
technical-wise I think it's a bad play
 
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The bet sizes are quite interesting. Not saying its wrong, but your 3bet size is polarizing to weak or KK+, your CB size is mostly weak. 9Ts is quite strong hand you could call it too and not 3bet, if you 3bet you want folds because out of position sucks with this hand.

sizings are a bit off due to me starting 5NL that day as I remember.
 
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