$400 NLHE Full Ring: Q10 vs 57 - 2 pair vs trips

$2/$5 cash game at casino.

Hero stack $250
Villain $300

Pot gets limped to Hero who is dealer. Hero limps in with Q10 off-suit.
SB raises to $15.
BB calls.
Everyone else folds.
I call.
Pot is $85 or so.

Flop comes Q55 rainbow.

SB bets out $15
BB folds.
I call.


Turn comes 7.

SB bets out $25
I call.

River comes 10.

SB bombs for like $75.
I call.

SB shows 5,7 for full house.


Should I have just folded pre here? I was getting a good price preflop and had position.

I was almost always folding the river but making 2 pair just made me not want to fold here. But either way I'm still behind alot of the time aren't I?
Where should I have folded / Where did I go wrong?

river is a fold.

It's a big leak in your game if you play these type of hands and call too much.

Why didn't you just open raise? We don't play well in a multiway pot.

I need to start playing live lol

akaRobbo said:

I need to start playing live lol

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1/2 live plays like 1c/2c online. >_>

Why are we sat with $250? if we were fully stacked here I would say wp.

As we are half stacked i would fold pre but as you rivered a T you kinda gotta sigh call i guess? since he can have worse Qx, I would fold all other rivers though.

Ducky7 said:

Why are we sat with $250? if we were fully stacked here I would say wp.

As we are half stacked i would fold pre but as you rivered a T you kinda gotta sigh call i guess? since he can have worse Qx, I would fold all other rivers though.

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Sat down with $300 like a fish. My first mistake.

My range needs serious adjustment. I was up against a tight player so I learnt, so him betting should've been a sure sign on all streets.

Bad luck you was good preflop. I mean he calls with 75 thats weird hand but after the. Flop with that raise you fold i guess you hoping it was bluff ,, flop was Q55 so even 55 your opponent didnt have he might have Q A QK, QJ ok you take that risk sometimes its bluff sometimes not

c9h13no3 said:

1/2 live plays like 1c/2c online. >_>

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I would go as far as to say that 2NL online is harder than 100NL or 200NL live.

Just take a note on sb,if he raise next time you should reraise if you had 99+AJ+KQ.

If you want proper feedback can I suggest you don't post the villain's cards. Just leave it at the point he shoves on the river and ask do we call?Then give the associated table info and player reads.
How many limped in before you? This is very important so we can make sense of his squeeze sizing. This gives the first clues as to his competence. If he raised 15 with 4 limpers already in that speaks volumes but not if you were the first in. You indicate 80 pre flop so there must have been quite a few limps.
When you play QT you are playing it to make a straight primarily not a paired hand because you will very often be dominated.
here you fell in love with your top pair against a raiser who has bet twice. He's saying he has a decent Queen minimum so I would have folded on the turn.
Once you hit 2pair you now beat his AQ KQ hands so you have to knuckle down and study him and the board before deciding what to do. You have to call sometimes here on the end it's only half pot and sometimes you'll win.

Folding pre with a short stack all day here, with a big stack I am only calling with the suited variant of Q10.

lukeellul92 said:

I was up against a tight player so I learnt, so him betting should've been a sure sign on all streets.

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'Tight' player raises 3x OOP vs. a pile of limpers???

Poker Orifice said:

'Tight' player raises 3x OOP vs. a pile of limpers???

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Yes, his bet size was way off, but after seeing how he played that was one of the only hands he played/raised the entire time...
Unless he was just after a steal, which, again, his raise was too small for that.

Aces2w1n said:

river is a fold.

It's a big leak in your game if you play these type of hands and call too much.

Why didn't you just open raise? We don't play well in a multiway pot.

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I strongly disagree.

$75 is not a "bomb" on the river. The pot is $180. With top 2 this is a snap call, and then laugh at how much value your villain missed.

Also... how do you have a full ring that limps to the dealer at 2/5, and when the SB raises to $15, the BB calls, and everyone else folds??

My suggestion: stay at that table your whole life and raise a **** ton of hands.

lukeellul92 said:

Sat down with $300 like a fish. My first mistake.

My range needs serious adjustment. I was up against a tight player so I learnt, so him betting should've been a sure sign on all streets.

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Except he raised 57 OOP into like 300 people. Where is this game, I'm sitting in!?

Open this hand OTB. As played, fold river.