$400 NLHE Full Ring: AA IP vs loose maniac

Hi guys I recently played an interesting hand at a 2/5 NL table and would like some feedback on the way I approached the hand.

Starting stacks:

Hero: $900
Villain: $800

3 players limp including villain in MP. Hero opens to $40 in the CO holding A:club: A:diamond: It's folded to the BB who calls and villain in MP.

The flop comes: 6:club: 3:spade: 6:heart: $137 in pot.

The flop goes check, check, check. It's a dry board therefore no need to bet as I will only get worse to fold.

The turn brings a 5:spade: $137 in pot

BB leads for $45. Villain raises to $130. Hero??

Villain is a loose maniac pre-flop. He initially bought in for $200 and limp shoved with AJo and AQo into a 4 way shoved pot. I haven't noticed villain engage in any significant post flop play as he mainly tends to shove pre-flop with marginal hands against any player.

Thanks for the feedback guys!

What kind of stack does the BB have? Any affinity from either the villain or the BB for low suited connectors? Reads on the BB?

Question. The 40 dollar preflop bet is that standard for this game? Is the a lot higher then your standard open bet?
Just trying to get a feel how the game is playing. Just trying to figure what they may be thinking.

With that I'd c-bet bet this. A lot of hands will call. Any over pair to the board, AQ type hands. I think you might lose value over the long run not betting the flop. Plus I think it helps keep you in control of the hand and pot.

tpb221 said:

Question. The 40 dollar preflop bet is that standard for this game? Is the a lot higher then your standard open bet?
Just trying to get a feel how the game is playing. Just trying to figure what they may be thinking.

With that I'd c-bet bet this. A lot of hands will call. Any over pair to the board, AQ type hands. I think you might lose value over the long run not betting the flop. Plus I think it helps keep you in control of the hand and pot.

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I think it is like at 2NL online. Some players are that bad so no need to worry about them thinking too much. They just wanna see flops.

Actually you shall bet the flop...

Legenie's game is cash live.

You should bet the flop and analyze/observe from there on.

You want to know whats the reaction of MP and BB.

tpb221 said:

Question. The 40 dollar preflop bet is that standard for this game? Is the a lot higher then your standard open bet?
Just trying to get a feel how the game is playing. Just trying to figure what they may be thinking.

With that I'd c-bet bet this. A lot of hands will call. Any over pair to the board, AQ type hands. I think you might lose value over the long run not betting the flop. Plus I think it helps keep you in control of the hand and pot.

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$40 is standard pre-flop threshold to see a flop either heads up or 3 way in my card room. Players are loose passive gamblers who like to see plenty of flops.

Jillychemung said:

What kind of stack does the BB have? Any affinity from either the villain or the BB for low suited connectors? Reads on the BB?

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The BB has 60BB left after his turn lead. BB is new at the table so definitive answer on that. Regarding villain I have not seen him call a big bet with suited connectors in a 3 way pot nor have I seen the BB do the same.

If villain does not have much of a stack behind i would raise him all in. Since he is a loose player he can a lot of worse hands than two aces there. We cannot fold to such type of players in such situations.

If he can limp and shove AJ as you say then think of all the worse hand that he can be raising us on the turn with. Any over pair, flush draw, open ended straight draw or even worse than that. So that is why it should not be such a tough decision as it might seem. :icon_stud

I would like a flat here and evaluate the actions to follow. I would be OK giving the BB a chance to shove and hope that the villain will reshove (baring any other reads after these actions).

Jillychemung said:

I would like a flat here and evaluate the actions to follow. I would be OK giving the BB a chance to shove and hope that the villain will reshove (baring any other reads after these actions).

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What's your reasoning behind flatting villain's raise here?

Jillychemung said:

I would like a flat here and evaluate the actions to follow. I would be OK giving the BB a chance to shove and hope that the villain will reshove (baring any other reads after these actions).

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LeGenie said:

What's your reasoning behind flatting villain's raise here?

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I want the BB to shove and then to have the villain reshove trying to force me out. Given the reads on the villain I'm happy to be playing for his stack here and having the extra from the unknown BB is just sweetener.

As has already been said though, I'd be value betting the flop against an unknown and this villain.

Surely I have to fold here as I really have no idea whether the 2 villains have sth. or not.