$400 NLHE Full Ring: AA facing intense pressure.

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$400 NL HE Full Ring: AA facing intense pressure.

was the big stack at the table, with about $1500 after 5 hrs of play. been relatively loose/aggressive, opening bets and raises in position. villian was the next biggest stack with about $1200, havent tangled much with him. tight/semi-aggressive, bets his strong hands fast but has showed a couple of big bluffs too.

on to the hand. everyone folded, button limped, and SB(villian) opens up to $16. i look down at AA and repop it to $50. button folded and he called after about 5seconds of deliberation.

FLOP: Qs 10s 6h
villian bet $75. i checked my aces, didnt see the ace of spades. raised it to $180. villian thought for a bit, and reraised to $320. was quite surprised by the raise, though im pretty sure i didnt show it on my face. counted out the chips and popped it to $550. Villian took his time, counting out his chips, before announcing the dreaded words. 'All in'.
Hero:?!?
 
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villian bet $75. i checked my aces, didnt see the ace of spades. raised it to $180. villian thought for a bit, and reraised to $320. was quite surprised by the raise, though im pretty sure i didnt show it on my face. counted out the chips and popped it to $550.

This is really bad. As you've played it you basically have to call his shove because you've committed near enough half your stack. Call his RR to 320 and re-evaluate on the turn in position.

Also, this is an obvious point but get into the habit of remembering the suits of your cards so you don't have to check them - someone checking their cards on a 2 or 3-flush flop is an absolutely huge tell in most cases.
 
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As played, the SPR is ~11:1, which isn't all that great. Preflop, I'd either 3-bet smaller (to $42) or 3-bet larger (to $75). The $50 3-bet preflop just kinda puts you in a weird spot where you're likely going to play a very big pot with just 1 pair with an SPR of 11, which isn't great when you're 300bb's deep.

Also, just call the flop. We have position, and we don't want to ship in 300bb's with just an overpair. Call, get closer to showdown, and use our position to get a better read on his holding/see how he reacts to the turn card.
 
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i make it a lot bigger preflop, as played, i don't get why you raised to $550 if you weren't going to snapcall and all-in

also i probably either just call the first flop bet, or just call the 3bet. 5bet/folding sucks
 
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I'd almost have to think he has more than a pair of queens. To me, it just looks like he has two pair, a set, or the flush draw at least....he might have AQ here as well.

I don't know...you have to call, pocket aces in a blind battle...i guess you have to call.
 
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I really really dislike the small 4 bet on the flop. You leave yourself room to be bluffed by a draw and don't really gain much information or value either, since we'll spirce most everything in anyway and one pair hands probably arent stacking off here if you take this line (this isnt 2003 anymore :()

to be perfectly honest, we're ultra deep with one pair here. Effective stacks are 11.5 times the current pot size. Once he bets $75, just flat and avoid this mess. Use your positional advantage to decision how to proceed on the turn. If it gets ugly whatever, fold.

"But what if he has a Spade draw or KJ/J9?"

Fine if he does then he does (he's not folding to your $105 raise ontop of the $75 bet if he does anyway so if it's coming on the turn he's getting there regardless). If a turn comes a spade we can call the turn if he bets it again and then fold if he bets the river. If the turn blanks and he checks we'll bet, if he bets again we can continue to play pot control and call again. Regardless we get to see what he does first anyway

"Don't we have to protect our hand blah blah blah?"

Protecting our hand is always nice, but IMO this is overshadowed by the fact that by flatting he will continue to strongly bet Qx, where as he likely will not be putting loads of money in with just top pair against a 3bettor preflop who has continued to show aggression postflop. If we blow this pot up and he continues, chances are we aren't good.

I realize we have Aces preflop BvB. But we're ultra deep and we have ONE PAIR. Let's build a pot without exploding it. If he's going to do the betting fine, let him.

As played unless villain is an idiot and is doing this with a queen (i guess possible if he is very bad) he either has a big draw or QT/a set. We're a flip or a small dog vs the draw (we have straight blockers to KJ) and we're crushed by a set and behind to two pair. Doesn't look like a spot Im happy about putting 11.5x Pot in. I dunno if I can fold with nearly half my stack in but Id never play it this way so I dunno.... once you 4 bet you should've immediately knew what you were doing if he shoved....I just think this is a great spot for pot control unless he is underbetting grossly.
 
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nice. thanks guys. it's a bit of reverse situational analysis here, i was actually the 'villian' in this hand, just wondering what my betting pattern suggested to u guys.
 
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Smells like a set or QT.
 
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nice. thanks guys. it's a bit of reverse situational analysis here, i was actually the 'villian' in this hand, just wondering what my betting pattern suggested to u guys.

And? What did you actually have? And what did the AA do?

You definitely put him to a painful choice. Well done, however it turned out.
 
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well... i had AK spades.

the guy thought about it for like, 1.5mins. then finally folded his AA face up.

i asked the whole table what did they think i have, and 6 of em were saying set of queens, 2 of em were sayin i had KJ spades.
 
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I really really dislike the small 4 bet on the flop. You leave yourself room to be bluffed by a draw and don't really gain much information or value either,

well... i had AK spades.

the guy thought about it for like, 1.5mins. then finally folded his AA face up.

i asked the whole table what did they think i have, and 6 of em were saying set of queens, 2 of em were sayin i had KJ spades.

Exactly my logic on y the 4 bet is bad
 
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his 4bet is pretty retarded if he's going to be folding to a shove
 
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well played... did you show him you hand?
 
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well, it was sorta semi-bluff. didnt want to be bet off my big draw if i called the flop and missed the turn.

was happy that he folded.

no i didnt show.
 
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