$400 NLHE Full Ring: 3 Hands need help with! Feeling like a fish!

Okay, so, trying to figure out where I went wrong here. I have my own thoughts but definately need help to improve my game.

$2/$5 $500 max cash game.
-I have about $575 behind me. I'm UTG +1, i pick up 8c8s.
- open raise to $20. Button and SB call.
-Flop comes 4d10c9c
-SB bets out $45
-I call
-Button Calls.

turn card comes out 7c.
-SB bets $100
-I shove all in for remaining $510 or so.
-SB has $400 behind and calls. Button has folded to my shove.

River card comes Ah. Complete blank.
SB shows pocket 10s for a set.

My thoughts - Maybe shoving on the gutshot straight flush draw was a bad idea? If I just hit a flush theres 4 cards to a flush on the board, so how good is my 8high flush going to really be? Maybe just flat calling him next time and shutting down on the river?

Any advice?


After this I had KK with about $100 behind, got 3bet to $65, I shoved all in, got called by 77. Flop came a 7 and his set held.

Next hand:

My stack: $500
I'm on the button.
-I get deal AhQh.
-Action gets limped around to me.
-I open raise to $20
- 2 players in middle position call.
-MP1 has about $750
-MP2 has about $125

Flop comes
2c3h4h
MP1 bets out $55
MP2 shoves all in for last $105
I 3bet shove.
MP1 calls.

Turn and comes brick and river comes 6.
MP1 shows 22
MP2 shows 66.

My thoughts: I honestly feel like I had the right odds to shove here, I didn't feel like it was a flop that hit MP1s range much and with the 2 hearts and a gutshot giving me 12 outs or %48 to hit by the river, I figured this was a good move. And also being heads up trying to isolate the pot with MP2.

Any advice again?


Hand 3, last one!

I rebuy for $300 at this point, it's been a 12 hour session and I should've left when I was up early on.

I get dealt 10h10c on the button.
It gets limped around.
I open raise to $20.
SB calls.
BB calls.
Folded all round.

SB and BB have me covered by about $400. (they took my previous chips -.-)
Flop comes 7-10-5 rainbow.
I bet $45.
Sb folds.
BB calls.

Turn comes 9.
BB bets first this time, for $110
I reshove all in for my remaining stack (Around $235)
BB calls.

He shows 6,8 for the straight.
River comes blank. I'm only making a full house 1 in 5 times.

My thoughts: probably should've gotten away from this easy now that I think about it. I had the betting lead pre flop and on the flop, so when he bets out first on the turn with a straight, I guess I could either just call or fold and move on. Maybe I was tilted. Been a rough night.
AGain, advice?

Appreciate anything you guys can help me with!

Bump! Surely someone can offer advice, these hands are playing on my mind!

i am kind of new player myself but anyway

all three hands are kind of unfortunate but you could also have saved a few hundred dollars by avoiding those shoves

as for the last hand, i can't make any sense of why he called with 68 but got lucky anyway. so yet again just unfortunate

Alright the flop..

Your calling why???

If you were on the button and your UTG opponent raised and we called. Then i'd still call thinking hands like AK type hands will be in and we can be infront.

But this is the opposite. so fold.

Aces2w1n said:

Alright the flop..

Your calling why???

If you were on the button and your UTG opponent raised and we called. Then i'd still call thinking hands like AK type hands will be in and we can be infront.

But this is the opposite. so fold.

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What hand are you talking about?

88

You misread the hand... Read it again. I was the UTG.

*Obviously the hand when you had KK sucks, but there isn't anything you can do. It happens to everyone.
**Hand #2. (AQs). I think this hand was pretty much straight forward and played ok. Once the flop comes you have a fairly strong drawing hand so you should be continuing with this hand almost every time. As you pointed out, you probably have 12 outs. Sometimes you will have even more outs when your opponents show up with something like 77+, a smaller flush draw, or a combo draw.
**Hand #3 (TT). When you say that it was limped around to you I don't know how many players limped in. You should specify which players limped in because it dramatically changes the pot odds for all players left to act. Because of this, the more players who limp in front of you, the bigger your preflop raise needs to be. (a good rule of thumb is 3 or 4bb's plus 1bb for each limper.) I will assume 2 players limped in front of you so your raise should be at least 5bb's or 6bb's. Because of the smaller raise, the SB is getting 2 to 1 pot odds to call. After SB calls, the BB is getting about 4 to 1 pot odds to call (which is why he called with 68). If you raised to 6bb those numbers change to 1.5 to 1 and 3 to 1 for the BB. I thought the post flop play was ok on this hand. I probably wouldn't fold in that spot either.
**Hand #1 (88). This was definitely your worst played hand. Personally, I don't like opening in early position with small/medium pairs. If we do open, we would have to fold to a big 3bet or an all in. Limping also encourages other players to limp in which makes a large pot. This is what you want those times you do hit a set on the flop. However, this is just a personal preference and I know lots of good players that would open in this spot. The worst part of this hand was the post flop play. To be honest, I think you should have folded on the flop. The SB leads out on a pretty coordinated flop. I would fold here nearly 100% of the time because our hand is not very good. There are 2 over cards, a straight draw, and a flush draw on the flop and we have 2 opponents. Our best hope here is runner runner for a straight....odds are like 27 to 1 and you should NEVER chase those. Even IF we made our straight, we could still lose to a bigger straight or a flush. When the turn comes, we pick up some outs but the 7 completes straights and flushes. It does help our hand slightly, BUT it probably helps our opponents even more than us. The SB has now bet into 2 opponents on the flop and the turn so it is safe to assume he has a made hand and he likes it. Therefore, we should not be calling any bets here and we DEFINITELY shouldn't be raising here. Gotta throw this hand away on the flop and move on.
Good Luck.

the 88 hand - in a live game where limping and family pots are happening that often i would not raise and make the pot huge against this live-stations oop.
i'd fold the flop. what hands you have beat are going to donkbet here?

KK - standard, just bad run of luck

AQ - i don't see a call or push right there - especially with him having a that deep stack.

TT - you could just call the bet on the turn but the set is getting in anyway - i see T9s T7s playing that way as well so you probably would have lost that stack as well.

Hand 1. At worst we have 2 outs. You had an open-ender to the straight flush. With sb betting into you twice this isn't a good spot.

Hand 2. In most casinos, MP 1 can't reopen the betting since MP 2 shoved for $50 more. Shoving here allows MP 1 to get away from the flop with weaker holdings.

Hand 3. Well its just not your night here.

We just played a hand like the 88 in our group sweat this week at 100nl. This is an easy turn fold w/ 2 people in the hand, and the fact that your opponent is betting into 2 people twice, even when the 3rd club comes. You have very little FE, and you're almost always behind one or both players at that point. I don't calling is even +EV because so many of your outs are not clean except for straight flush ones, and you have a low river pay off rate even if you do hit your straight on the river. It's one of those hands that looks like you have direct odds to call a turn bet, when you really don't because you really only maybe have 4 outs.