$400 NLHE Full Ring: $1/3 NL: Should I call all-in on the flop with AJo

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About 20 mins after sitting down at my local casino I pick up AJo in MP2. At this stage I don't have a great read on anybody.

UTG: Folds
UTG+1: limps $3
UTG+2: limps $3
MP1: Folds
MP2: Hero: AcJd raise $15 (stack= $245)
MP3: Folds
CO: Folds
BTN: Folds
SB: villain calls $15 (stack= $549)
BB: Folds

Both UTG+1 & UTG +2 call raise

Pot=$63

Flop: As Qs 8d

SB (villain) checks, UTG+1 & UTG+2 both check, Hero bets $30. SB (villain) then check raises all-in. UTG+1 & UTG+2 fold.

Thoughts on if the hero should call in this situation or fold?
 
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calling 200$ to get 93$ makes no sense

id madly fold & wait another chance
 
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people tend to respect unknowns... sb calls us well ur raise so he has a good AQ AK 88 QQ if hes any good.
... but if hes not great or an aggro he could be doing this on draws cuz of tilt or whatever or table bully.


But yeh ez fold since ur uncertain

id raise more preflop $16-$21 depends on the dynamics. And flop is a hard spot you dont want to cbet into so many players for this reason but also there is a lot out there.. personally AJ i wouldnt mind checking and getting some pot control... think of the hands we are aiming to beat like AT A9 .. Qx... 99 TT...

plus we need a stronger hand on average with so many players.... also i wouldnt be upset folding pre.... u got no reads man... AJ is tricky in this spot

if i cbet into so many people i tend to bet more.
m. At least $40. your sizing looks weakish like u dont like that ace or scared.
 
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Thanks

Hi Aces,

thanks for the replay. I am based in Melbourne also and play at crown about 2x a week. Do you only play online or do you play at crown much?

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Not sure how your game plays, but $15 R into two limpers seems very light. Lots of speculative hands can call, especially once the SB calls. AJo does not play well multihanded. Can't fault the Cbet, but calling 5X pot seems odd, with TP OK kicker. What do you think his range is? Unless you know this guy is agro, I'd have to fold.
 
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In this spot, live with no reads, I like a check back here and then a delayed c-bet on a non-diamond, non-broadway turn. Yeah we hit our Ace but so many live players limp/call AK/AQ from EP plus the broadway & flush draws won't fold to a cb. IMHO this is the type of hand where we should be OK with winning a smaller pot so that we minimize our downside.

Also preflop I'd probably make it $23 but $15 is OK if that raise size has been getting folds from limpers.

As played, yes fold, Your TPgK is barely ahead of any combo range (Ks w/ either Js or Ts and JsTs or Ts9s) and is obviously crushed by AK/AQ/A8 (which a cold caller could have)
 
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since you have n't good read on your opponent, better fold the hands. maybe he hold AQ, 88, 99, or QQ. give respect your opponent. this is sometime happend to me.
 
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About 20 mins after sitting down at my local casino I pick up AJo in MP2. At this stage I don't have a great read on anybody.

UTG: Folds
UTG+1: limps $3
UTG+2: limps $3
MP1: Folds
MP2: Hero: AcJd raise $15 (stack= $245)
MP3: Folds
CO: Folds
BTN: Folds
SB: villain calls $15 (stack= $549)
BB: Folds

Both UTG+1 & UTG +2 call raise

Pot=$63

Flop: As Qs 8d

SB (villain) checks, UTG+1 & UTG+2 both check, Hero bets $30. SB (villain) then check raises all-in. UTG+1 & UTG+2 fold.

Thoughts on if the hero should call in this situation or fold?

Without reads, it does seem risky to call this here. I'd like to have info on a villain to make a call like this. I honestly just fold here, and just watch this guy very close from this point forward.

I don't mind the cbet. I know some suggested not betting, but I don't want to give a free card to broadway draws and FD hands, so I'm fine with betting for value/protection. Sometimes we can get in tricky spots checking back flop here because we under-rep our hand, and we kinda are in no mans land on the turn as a result. So I think bet flop. No FPS. Just bet.

When the dude just hauls it though, without a fantastic read I just don't think we can call here.
 
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I prefer a check back on the flop solely for the reason that if you bet you either:

a) Need to go larger because you would bet larger with your stronger value hands (and your bluffs) e.g AQ and this puts us in a weird spot with AJ as it merges our range here which I don't think is a good thing. Checking back AJ also has the added benefit of balancing our range.

b) Bet it as you did which invites x/j plays from any semi-decent reg who can tell you don't have strong holding here. And who feels he can push you off exactly what you have with his semi-bluffing range. He is also going to do the jam with his value hands because there are still two fish acting behind him.
 
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I play at crown Friday and Sunday nights generally :)

I play 1/2
 
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