$400 NLHE 6-max: $ : QQ from Btn Facing a shove?

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NL Holdem 4(BB)
SB ($96) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 11.1% | hands: 13]
BB ($92) [VPIP: 38.5% | PFR: 3.8% | AGG: 57.7% | Hands: 26]
UTG ($229) [VPIP: 41.5% | PFR: 10.7% | AGG: 17.9% | Hands: 526]
HJ ($131) [VPIP: 50.9% | PFR: 34% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 53]
CO ($77) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 20.5% | AGG: 15.7% | Hands: 44]
HERO ($394) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 11.9% | AGG: 23% | Hands: 18215]

Dealt to Hero: Q♠ Q♣

UTG Calls $4, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $14, SB Calls $12, BB Folds, UTG Raises To $229 (allin), HERO???

Limp 3bet shove from utg from fishy villian really looks super strong here!
im mostly gonna keep it AA,QQ,KK Top of the range And AKs,JJ Bottom of the range and the villians aggresion factor was also little passivish!
even if u give him 8% shoving range and include some arbitary hands such as QKs,JKs AT against our QQ we are 65/35 and getting 1.2 to 1 on a call but i beleive villian might be limp 3bet shoving very tight, very tough spot here anyways!
what do u think?

Easy fold. This villain does not have a 3-bet rank on 500 sample hands, so his over limp /3-b jam line represents a super strong hand, implying that he carries nuts or almost walnuts.
Greetings.

gustav197poker said:

Easy fold. This villain does not have a 3-bet rank on 500 sample hands, so his over limp /3-b jam line represents a super strong hand, implying that he carries nuts or almost walnuts.
Greetings.

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Definetly not easy! fishy villian can sometimes turn over 55,QJs etc

gustav197poker said:

Easy fold. This villain does not have a 3-bet rank on 500 sample hands, so his over limp /3-b jam line represents a super strong hand, implying that he carries nuts or almost walnuts.
Greetings.

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actually its not included here but villians 3bet was 11 and pfr was 10.7!
what does that tell? m confused

seeyouthru said:

Definetly not easy! fishy villian can sometimes turn over 55,QJs etc

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With so little aggression I don't expect weak pockets for this line. Furthermore, the jam clearly intended to produce calls from of hero. But if we are wrong with the appreciation, we will be rescuing money that loses many times against this very strong range of re-raise.

seeyouthru said:

actually its not included here but villians 3bet was 11 and pfr was 10.7!
what does that tell? m confused

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Ok 11% 3b is the equivalent of re-raising 1 in 9 times. However his aggression factor has a similar proportion (18%) which means that this villain rises with strong value here. Something similar to QQ +.

gustav197poker said:

Easy fold. This villain does not have a 3-bet rank on 500 sample hands, so his over limp /3-b jam line represents a super strong hand, implying that he carries nuts or almost walnuts.
Greetings.

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...walnuts?

seeyouthru said:

actually its not included here but villians 3bet was 11 and pfr was 10.7!
what does that tell? m confused

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I would take from this that he plays a super wide range passively (limp / call) and he tries to hit home runs with the top of his range (limp / re-raise or open raise). The limp re-raise will give his strong hands more 3bet opportunities with strong hands potentially skewing his numbers a bit. Since he limping so wide it actually makes sense for him to have a dedicated limp re-raise range. Doesn't matter if you've already opened the pot, his raising range is not often flatting behind he's dropping the hammer with that top 8-10%. The Limp RR from UTG with an already snug 11% PFR supports this. Given the sizing I think we can find a better spot. As you've suggested, you need him to have some hands worse than QQ or AK in order for this call to make sense. His VPIP looks fishy but is that enough to stack off 50+ BB? I would probably let him get away with this the first time and assume it's mostly QQ+, AK and fold. Once we see him get out of line once we can make a better read. All of his pre flop jams are included in his PFR stat. So the fact that his PFR is 10.7 suggests those top 10% hands you want to see when you call (ATs, KQs, KJs) are less likely to be in his limp/shove range from UTG and more likely to be in his open raise range.

teh_colonel_saigon said:

...walnuts?

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KK. Sorry for my English.

If you feel like gambling, it's not a horrible call if you make it for ~55BBs. I'm not sure you're going to get great advice on a spot like this because a lot of it depends on how your villain has been playing recently. Is he tilting? etc..

Why is everyone at your table so short stacked?

John A said:

If you feel like gambling, it's not a horrible call if you make it for ~55BBs. I'm not sure you're going to get great advice on a spot like this because a lot of it depends on how your villain has been playing recently. Is he tilting? etc..

Why is everyone at your table so short stacked?

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IDK. Some punk maybe won a 4 way monster pot and left. [emoji23]