$4 PLO Full Ring: Advice on this PLO hand needed

LuckyChippy

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I'm no omahaha expert, but the river is a fold nearly always, he has a set a ton, plus you have top and 3rd pair.

Also you had a bare flush draw (ok a gutshot too) all the way through against heavy action. I think you can fold flop to the action.
 
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I had the nut flush draw and a wheel draw on the flop. I improved to a broadway straight draw as well on the turn. Had three draws to win and they were all the nuts unless he has the higher end of the low straight draw.
 
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I know it's the nut flush draw but it's still bare against a ton of action and unless the stats for villain are whacky it's still only 12 outs on the flop with the one ended wheel draw. On the turn we move to 15 outs, but only have one card to come against MORE action leading me to think he's either holding a set or at best T3 even more.

If you have reads he could get frisky with a flush draw or some kind of combo draw it changes things a bit.

I could be way off cause I've not played it a whole bunch.
 
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I think you are on target. I pt him on a set for sure. I think my weak stab OOP position may have been a mistake and the call a bigger mistake on the flop fo sure .

Thanks for the input.
 
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Was hoping to hear more from the PLO players on this one.
 
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I fold after c/r. If a flush card hits (and the flush card can't pair the board) you're probably not getting much more action from a set. I probably wouldn't want to play for stacks here. I don't really like the pfr though, you're playing full ring plo...just nut peddle. No reason to create a bigger pot out of position. I never raise UTG. I think you're under 40% against a set.
 
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uh...ship/get it in all day on the flop or turn?
 
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We gots like 35% on flop and 32% on turn against set of tens with a club. Odd chance he has 2 pair on the flop or turn so we can ship there but 2 pair hands dont ship river so we kinda have to fold despite 7-1 odds.
 
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I calculate villain's range to be something like this

board: tc3c2h
Hand equity Wins Ties
AcJcKd4d 43.62%
TT**, 33**, 22**, T3**, 5c4c** 56.38%

we have basically the same equity on the turn, and maybe we can add AT to his range.
board: tc3c2has
Hand Equity Wins Ties
AcJcKd4d 43.36% 255,640
TT**, 33**, 22**, T3**, 5c4c**, AT** 56.64%

If he ever has other combo draws we do even better, plus this is a .01/.02 game, he can have some random AJJx hand once in a while.
 
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