$4 NLHE Full Ring: those killer JJ win this time--but was it good play?

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I always get killed pushing with JJ. My win rate over 10 hands with JJ is 40% and I'm down $5.08. Here's one time I wonder if I made the right play.

Party Poker - $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com
SB Sciprian796: $4
BB mipa191007: $4.16
UTG jozelette: $4.24
UTG+1 kretsche_21: $3.87
MP Eenergy52: $4.94
MP+1 Hero: $4
MP+2 shootnick1: $4.01
CO tripo11: $4.40
BTN zurrub: $4
Pre-flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP+1 and dealt :js4: :jh4:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.32, 4 folds, mipa191007 raises to $4.16 (All-in), Hero calls $3.68 (All-in)
Flop: ($8.18) :4c4: :9h4: :2s4: (2 players)
Turn: ($8.18) :4c4: :9h4: :2s4: :4d4: (2 players)
River: ($8.18) :4c4: :9h4: :2s4: :4d4: :qh4: (2 players)
Final Pot: $8.18
Showdown:
Hero shows :js4: :jh4:
mipa191007 shows :ac4: :9c4:
Outcome: mipa191007 wins $0.16
Outcome: Hero wins $7.62
 
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I'm snapping off these donk-jams every time.

If our opponent had made a normal 3-bet, I'd be more wary, since that shows to me villain knows what he's doing. That's not the case at all here.
 
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am i blind or is that 8xBB pre open?
 
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thanks for the feedback, especially re. the 8bet. :D Truth is I've had such a s***ty record playing JJ that I didn't want to see a flop.

I should pop open HEM and see villain's VPIP/PFR/AGG stats just to provide further information and see whether I read him right.
 
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Lol, so it is. THAT is crazyness. Open to the usual 4x in the future OP.


8x does seem extreme. But, I'm not sure where you get the "usual 4x" when you weren't playing the table. Maybe you can elaborate on this.
 
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Most solid players open up 4xbb and some 3xbb it's just your preference. By opening up larger we don't get calls wide enough by peoples range making it -EV
 
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Most solid players open up 4xbb and some 3xbb it's just your preference. By opening up larger we don't get calls wide enough by peoples range making it -EV


I bet you read that in a book somewhere? . . . .
 
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i bet you I didn't? . . . .
 
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what are these "book"'s you guys speak of?
 
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