$4 NLHE Full Ring: overpair in 3-bet pot vs minraise on flop

OzExorcist

OzExorcist

Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Total posts
8,586
Awards
1
Chips
1
$4 NL HE Full Ring: overpair in 3-bet pot vs minraise on flop

Villain is aggressive and has been playing a lot of hands.

I figure preflop is pretty straightforward. What do you do with this one postflop though? I kinda went "Whee - overpair and a gutshot" and bet without thinking too much, which maybe wasn't the smartest.

full tilt poker Game #12072818668: Table Dinner - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:58:33 ET - 2009/05/06
Seat 1: beelzebub84 ($2)
Seat 2: magicmoush ($2.41)
Seat 3: OzExorcist ($1.85)
Seat 4: NavGuy ($1.65)
Seat 5: Pdotc333 ($1.36)
Seat 6: yjc1 ($1.98)
Seat 7: melch300 ($1.85)
Seat 8: Zmii_rk ($2.05)
Seat 9: Spydy01 ($5.02)
Pdotc333 posts the small blind of $0.01
yjc1 posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OzExorcist [9s 9h]
melch300 folds
Zmii_rk folds
Spydy01 calls $0.02
beelzebub84 folds
magicmoush folds
OzExorcist raises to $0.09
NavGuy raises to $0.18
Pdotc333 folds
yjc1 folds
Spydy01 folds
OzExorcist calls $0.09
*** FLOP *** [7h 6s 5c]
OzExorcist bets $0.30
NavGuy raises to $0.60
OzExorcist...?
 
Steveg1976

Steveg1976

...
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 7, 2007
Total posts
2,516
Awards
1
Chips
0
Is he just a habitual minraiser, Is he just spazy? If he is a min raising fish I just ship it since calling puts in 1/3 of your stack anyway and minraises are hard to read (at least to me). If he is nitty and passive I just let it go.
 
B

bfw0082

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Total posts
141
Chips
0
Don't see who really calls you here if you push all in, except anyone with a straight or two pair.

Then it is just a race, those straight draw flops are nasty even when you hit a set, hard to really believe you are beat.

If you think he would beat A7 that way, then All in is a good move, it is all about the information you have and the read you get from the player.
 
bgomez89

bgomez89

Resident Thugmaster
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 3, 2009
Total posts
3,127
Chips
0
yeah do you have any other reads?
 
Steveg1976

Steveg1976

...
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 7, 2007
Total posts
2,516
Awards
1
Chips
0
Don't see who really calls you here if you push all in, except anyone with a straight or two pair.

Then it is just a race, those straight draw flops are nasty even when you hit a set, hard to really believe you are beat.

If you think he would beat A7 that way, then All in is a good move, it is all about the information you have and the read you get from the player.


Hand that we beat right now that would call a shove A5-7, K5-7, 4/5, 88's, 44's, possible an overplayed AK, AQ. all dependant on reads but I have seen it.
 
c9h13no3

c9h13no3

Is drawing with AK
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 2, 2007
Total posts
8,819
Chips
0
Jammit. We have blockers against a straight/straight draw, and we have an overpair at 2NL.
 
OzExorcist

OzExorcist

Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Total posts
8,586
Awards
1
Chips
1
Don't see who really calls you here if you push all in, except anyone with a straight or two pair.

Are straight / two pair type hands really likely to have three-bet me before the flop though?

I'm a lot more worried about sets and overpairs than I am about straights and two-pairs.

FWIW villain definitely isn't nitty. He didn't seem spazzy either though.
 
Steveg1976

Steveg1976

...
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 7, 2007
Total posts
2,516
Awards
1
Chips
0
I'm a lot more worried about sets and overpairs
^^This really. I have seen so many min raises with sets lately. I am inclined to just let it go unless you have been really aggressive lately and think he is just trying to poorly play back at you in which case you should ship it. If you had JJ or QQ's I would ship it but with AA-10's and set combos ahead of you I don't see you being ahead here honestly since you said he isn't spazzy.

If the stacks were deeper I would call and fire again on the turn as it seems a lot of players don't believe flop bets but will fold to turn bets but here the stacks aren't deep enough and that is also villian dependant.
 
OzExorcist

OzExorcist

Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Total posts
8,586
Awards
1
Chips
1
OK. So the consensus on this one is there is no real consensus?

FWIW, I called the extra 30 on the flop figuring I've got six outs to a straight or top set and maybe I've got the implied odds to try for them. Then I check-folded when a ten hit the turn and villain shoved his remaining stack. He (graciously, I suppose) showed 77 for the flopped set.
 
Top