Originally Posted by BLieve
Yes I realize that mistake now but correct me if I am wrong, it would be about even value to call a raise in this instance if my stack was at least 9 times the raise. I say 9 times because there is a 1 in 9 chance of hitting a set on the flop but since a set doesnt win and/or villain will not go all in 100% of the time when I do hit, maybe 15 times is a better figure. The other theory from what I understand is that your opponents should have at least twice your stack so they would be more willing to call your all ins at these micro levels.
But regardless I would still like to know what the right action is here. One mistake made, not trying to make another.
No their stack is completely irrelevant.
Also the 15 times figure would be fine for calling raises, it isn't for limping because:
*The cards they hold are gunna be trashy and aren't going to get all their money in unless they hit something huge.
56s aint gunna get it in when they hit a pair
AK JJ+ are going to get their stack in much more often
*You are going to get raised out of the pot most the time
*Your missing out on the fold equity from your raise and subsequent c-bet if you had raised yourself
To sum up set mining is good when you have a 15times the size of their raise and call or raise yourself.