$4 NLHE Full Ring: Nitty opponent flats 3-bet OOP

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 13/10/2

Villain's stats are over 266 hands. Basically fist-pumping when he flats my 3-bet preflop because I'm putting him on queens or jacks. His fold to 3-bet % is 67% over 9 hands, but his 4-bet% is 1/3, which I figured he's doing with AA and maaaaybe KK. I definitely don't expect bluff 4-betting so I figure AA can't be in his flatting range here.

No Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.04
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9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($6.86)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 ($4.66)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 ($4.04)
MP - Hero ($4.29)

MP2 - MP2 ($3.84)
CO - CO ($2.42)
BTN - BTN ($3.96)
SB - SB ($4.12)
BB - BB ($1.08)

Preflop: ($0.06, 9 players) Hero is MP with :ks4: :kd4:
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.26

Flop: :10d4: :9h4: :8s4: ($0.86, 4 players - CO: $2.42, UTG+2: $3.64, Hero: $3.89, MP2: $3.84)
UTG+2 bets $0.56, Hero??

Hero raises to $2.04, UTG+2 bets $3.08 (all-in), Hero??

Hero calls $1.60

Turn: :5d4: ($8.14, 4 players - CO: $2.42, UTG+2: $0.00, Hero: $0.25, MP2: $3.84)

River: :3s4: ($8.14, 4 players - CO: $2.42, UTG+2: $0.00, Hero: $0.25, MP2: $3.84)

Total Pot: $8.14
UTG+2 shows :8d4: :8c4: (8d 8c)
Hero shows :ks4: :kd4: (Ks Kd)

UTG+2 wins $7.74

So what's the deal - was he just setmining once he saw my 3-bet, assuming that I have pocket pairs?? My 3-bet % is 6%, but has been on the rise lately, so if he's paying attention, I wouldn't think he'd assume a solely value-range.

Am I over-thinking this for the micros? I only even start this kind of thinking when I see that someone's stats make a little bit of sense.
 
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Hero makes it $1.50 to go and then takes villain to value town on turn and river.
 
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Your 3-bet is still too small. As a rule of thumb, make it at least 3x his raise.

I can't decide if I want to shovethe flop, or call and shove over safe turns.
 
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Your 3-bet is still too small. As a rule of thumb, make it at least 3x his raise.

I can't decide if I want to shovethe flop, or call and shove over safe turns.

I do generally try to 3x when I 3-bet, but it's so tough with a hand like KK when someone opens like that. Whenever someone has a bigger than 3x open and I 3-bet the raise to 3x the raise value, it seems like I get too many folds. And I don't really want to turn KK into a bluff. We're going to make so much off of it from people calling with crap on the flop. I know that we want a favorable (small) SPR with a hands like kings, but even if it means folding out a lot of our opponent's flatting range? Maybe villain's flatting range isn't as elastic as I think it is, but so far it has seemed that anything bigger than about 45 cents (roughly 11bb) gets insta-folded unless they are ready to ship their stack with their hand.
 
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I agree. Raise is fine. 3 bets don't need to be as large. You want to isolate the original raiser, not fold him out.
 
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