$4 NLHE Full Ring: mid 2 pairs vs flush draw/oesd: did hand play out by themselves?

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$4 NL HE Full Ring: mid 2 pairs vs flush draw/oesd: did hand play out by themselves?

Did the hand play out by themselves or did one of us make a horrible mistake or horrible call? This was an interesting hand I had against a "villain" who I found out later at the end that he's a CCer named TheUndertaker. He wanted me to post this hand also since we're both wondering if I made a horrible shove by overplaying my middle 2 pairs instead of controlling the size of the pot or if he made a horrible call? I think the hand played out by itself and it's poker. Although it seemed like I was ahead, it was a coin-flip. 44 cards left to come on the turn, 22 favors me and 22 favors him.


Stacks:
* Bigevil19 with $1.59
* BTN with $1.95
* SB with $1.16
* BB with $1.90
* UTG with $2.07
* UTG+1 with $1.45
* MP1 with $1.74
* MP2 with $1.40
* MP3 with $2.15

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to BB:7♠ 4♣
Preflop:
* * 4 players fold.
* * MP3 calls [$0.02]
* * bigevil19 calls [$0.02] Hero checks
* * 2 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 6
* * Potsize: $0.07
Flop: 7♥ 4♥ 5♣ Hero checks
* * MP3 checks
* * bigevil19 bets [$0.04]
* * 2 players fold.
Hero raises to $0.19
* * 1 players fold.
* * bigevil19 calls [$0.15]
* * Total folds this street: 1
* * Potsize: $0.45
Turn: A♦ Hero bets [$1.69, and is all in]
* * bigevil19 calls [$1.38] [ all-in ] Hero shows : 7♠ 4♣
* * Bigevil19 shows : 6♥ A♥

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This is like an Omaha hand, where Bigevil has insane equity on the turn.

I think I'd rather bigevil raise the flop, because all of his outs are scare cards. Obviously he can't fold on the turn.
 
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Not really relavent just not often u see this in pokerstove, to the 0.00%:

Board: 7h 4h 5c Ad
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 206366757 0.00 { Ah6h }
Hand 1: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 206365277 0.00 { 7s4c }

I hate the fact that u both dont have full stacks, turning on autoreload isnt hard.
I hate villains limp, its iso raise>fold>limp imo.

Do we have some info that says villain takes stabs at pots checked to him or that he is in some way aggro?
If we dont i prefer leading out for 0.07 over c/r since it sucks so bad when it goes check-check and a heart/5/3/6/8 rolls of.

Villain really should be 3betting the flop imo. All his outs are action killers but his equity is so awsome he is favorite over everything besides sets.

Villain can never fold turn but im curious why u jam?
Doesnt have to be bad just curious what your hoping/expecting to get called by, if villain has shown a inability to fold FDs/TP ect to overbets its obvs great but im not sure if its more ev in general then a pot bet here since we should get calls by more of his 88-TT/7x/naked 6x ect that way.
Not that it matters in exactly this hand since your both allways stacking off here on the turn, board is to wet to fold 2p and he has TP with all the redraws...

Oh and the next time u post a hand please use another converter, the CC one is crap.
 
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Villain can never fold turn but im curious why u jam?
Doesnt have to be bad just curious what your hoping/expecting to get called by, if villain has shown a inability to fold FDs/TP ect to overbets its obvs great but im not sure if its more ev in general then a pot bet here since we should get calls by more of his 88-TT/7x/naked 6x ect that way.
Not that it matters in exactly this hand since your both allways stacking off here on the turn, board is to wet to fold 2p and he has TP with all the redraws...

Oh and the next time u post a hand please use another converter, the CC one is crap.

The reason why I checked on the flop was because mp3 usually takes stab at the limped pot. His stats were 78/11/33. His post-flop aggression was 1.3/100/63. He stole limped pot 66% although it's just 2 out of 3 limped pots. I figured that he might bet out, I can squeeze play with check-raise, pick up some dead money. But instead, mp-3 checked and villain bet out.

I figured that unless he has a higher two pairs or a flopped straight, I should make a huge oversized bet by making it less than 2:1 to call, which suggests for him to fold if he's on flush draw or straight draw. Not many hands can beat me on the turn. Right when the cards rolled over, I was disappointed that he called on a draw and win it but when I looked at it again, I realized, "omg, that is a monstrous draw. I don't think I would've folded as well." Never witness such hand where equity was exactly 50:50. And yeah, this was my first post on cash game analysis. I need to use better converter. river was 9 of hearts, which made him win the pot.

And recently, I got an email from ft about an article where harman explains controlling the pot size. I'm wondering if that applies here since limped pot started off very small with 7 cents.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/tip-email-216-deposit
 
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