$4 NLHE Full Ring: Limp 87s, call raise, flop SD/FD, followed by min bet

poker stars $0.01/$0.02

UTG+1: $2.00
MP: $4.49
CO: $0.95
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $0.70
BB: $2.47
UTG: $6.53

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 8:diamond: 7:diamond:
2 folds, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.41) J:spade: 6:diamond: 9:diamond: (4 players)
BB bets $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

Turn: ($0.49) T:diamond: (4 players)
BB bets $0.14, MP raises to $0.28, CO raises to $0.42, Hero raises to $1.58, BB folds, MP calls $1.30, CO calls $0.41 all in

River: ($4.62) 3:spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.30 all in

Not sure what would have been the optimal way to play this one, opinions?

Preflop isn't the prettiest play ever, but I guess you can get away with it at 2NL. I would be trying to squeeze them here a good amount of the time depending on how often they limp/fold and also if they fold easily on the flop.
You need to raise da flop (any arguments against?). You could end up with second or even third best made hand come the turn/river. Try and take down the pot now or at least drop some players/increase your equity.You can get away with raising more/pushing turn, good amount of hands that will come along at this point.

ftlog. raise the flop to 40 imo.

you want to build a huge pot in case someone has something and you make your hand. at the same time, we have 8-high so taking it down isn't bad.

Likminutz said:

Preflop isn't the prettiest play ever, but I guess you can get away with it at 2NL. I would be trying to squeeze them here a good amount of the time depending on how often they limp/fold and also if they fold easily on the flop.
You need to raise da flop (any arguments against?). You could end up with second or even third best made hand come the turn/river. Try and take down the pot now or at least drop some players/increase your equity.You can get away with raising more/pushing turn, good amount of hands that will come along at this point.

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I wasn't sure if I had the odds to call his raise pre. Did I?

Squeeze is pretty bad here imho since they call too lightly(when you say squeeze you mean instead of limping behind raise instead, right?)

I really wasn't sure if I should raise or not on the flop. I decided to call because I wanted a few players to be around if I hit my hand. I was planning on raising the turn if weakness was shown again and I hadn't hit.

Not sure if raise would have been good. These simply wasn't much I thought they could have, fairly dud board. In a way I was slow playing a non-made hand, a bit silly in a way.

Raising is a decent choice though; if they reraise I can shove, if they call then I can reevaluate turn. If I don't think I have much fold equity I can check behind and see a free river card. So in a way a raise on the flop is a blocker bet. + If I hit my hand it is more disguised.

It could be argued that I should try to build the pot. Not sure if that is good thinking because if they have a big hand then they'll build it for me. If they don't then they'd fold to any raise. Not sure though

How much should have I raised on the turn?

pat3392 said:

I wasn't sure if I had the odds to call his raise pre. Did I?

Squeeze is pretty bad here imho since they call too lightly(when you say squeeze you mean instead of limping behind raise instead, right?)

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Well, I guess a squeeze is usually used as a 3bet against a raise and call, but you get the idea.

So you were wondering if limp/fold was a better line preflop? You didn't say anything about them calling so lightly... are they weak postflop?

pat3392 said:

Not sure if raise would have been good. These simply wasn't much I thought they could have, fairly dud board.

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You're so close it's not even funny.

Likminutz said:

Well, I guess a squeeze is usually used as a 3bet against a raise and call, but you get the idea.

So you were wondering if limp/fold was a better line preflop? You didn't say anything about them calling so lightly... are they weak postflop?



You're so close it's not even funny.

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I had no reads but it is the lowest stakes so I kind of assume that they are weak