$4 NLHE Full Ring: Is it right go all-in with KK in this situation?

Party Poker - $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem (10 players)
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SB: $4.31
BB: $3 (unknown player - never seen him before)
UTG: $5.03
UTG+1: $12.32
UTG+2 Hero: $7.42
MP: $2.86
MP+1: $2.26
MP+2: $2.06
CO: $1.86
BTN: $1.94

Pre-flop: ($0.06) Hero is UTG+2 and dealt
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 3 folds, CO calls $0.24, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.74) (3 players)
BB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, CO calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.79) (3 players)
BB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, CO folds

River: ($3.49) (2 players)
BB bets $1.56 (All-in)

I had no stats on this player and didn't know his style. Would it be correct to fold or to go all-in faced with this flop? Thanks!

lawrelye said:

I had no stats on this player and didn't know his style. Would it be correct to fold or to go all-in faced with this flop? Thanks!

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against unknown, i think the call on the flop is fine. too cheap to fold, i think... i'm folding turn every-time though.
i wouldn't ever consider raising post flop on this board. always be-aware of overs, especially an ace. you want to get to showdown as cheap as possible with KK on this flop.

I would fold on the turn. For sure one of these guys has an As.

The disciplined play is to fold the flop. Yes, it's less than half-pot to call, but what's BB's range to flat pre- then lead into two opponents on a A-high flop? And there's another player still to act whose options aren't just to call or fold. Either or both can have not just an A, but a set.

Also, how many cards can come on the turn that are good for you? If you decide you're going to call a turn bet if a blank falls, you're kind of painting yourself into calling a bet on most rivers as well. So calling the flop is the first step toward playing a big pot with a modest hand, which isn't a great recipe for profitability.

Thanks all. Yes, I folded but wondered if I'd done the right thing. Sometimes I think I may be too cautious but too many times (in my very short poker career) I've been beaten with KK. Strangely it's one of my worst performing PPs.

The flop is close. Given the small sizing and our backdoor draw I'll make the call, think it's EV neutral really. Make a note if he double barrells that he will double barrell his small donk bets. Wouldn't surprise me if the fold is better seeing as so many fishy villains take tiny bet bet bet bluff lines and I'm not calling a second barrel.

The turn is a snap fold. The CO called and the BB has double barrelled, one of them if not both will have an ace.

Okay - so I folded too late. Was hoping I would see a K on the river! Must get more disciplined about folding "premium" hole cards when faced with bad flop and c-bets from fishes. Probably a huge leak for me. Thing is when I'm watching some of them play against others I see that they go all-in with hands like QTo. I beat someone who did just that yesterday when I had KK and he went all-in pre-flop. So the balance is once again restored...

I would probably call the flop, then very grudgingly fold to the turn bet.

JDAWG5 said:

I would probably call the flop, then very grudgingly fold to the turn bet.

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Ya same, I would fold the turn. If you are calling the turn here the river shouldn't even be a question though. You can't call the turn and then not call the river. What has changed?