$4 NLHE Full Ring: Isoing with AJo and facing aggression

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 38/19/3.17

Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $3.96
BB: $3.47
UTG: $3.95
UTG+1: $6.51
Hero (MP): $4.46
MP+1: $8.34
CO: $2.11
BTN: $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has :ac4: :jd4:

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) :9c4: :jh4: :2h4:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.69, Hero calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.76, 2 players) :5h4:
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.76, 2 players) :as4:
UTG+1 bets $1.17, Hero???
 
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Minor but I bet bigger otf, call the c/r b/c he looks like he's kinda aggressive post, def more so than pre.

Not sure about the turn, we get value from any Qhx Khx Ahx, maybe b/f like $1.

As played im calling the river for sure, c/r flop then checking turn looks weak to me, if he has like sets or a flush he bets the turn or just idiot shoves the river, you beat A9, AT random bluffs, which given his AF are not unlikely.
 
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Well frankly, his high aggression frequency made me feel like he'd probably be barreling turn hearts if he didn't have a flush - when he checks it down it makes me worried he's "slow-playing" a flush.

But I also thought he could have a lot of Jx and 9x that we beat, along with rando bluffs like you said. I'm not sure if I like my turn check or not, but when he bets the river he could definitely hold Ax there or even just be barreling on it. Idk I keep going back and forth.
 
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You dont get a high AF by checking :) Although probs reading too much into that as I doubt the sample is large enough.
 
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I bet bigger both pre and on the flop. Pre is petty but the flop defo needs a much bigger bet vs a fish on a wet flop.

Don't mind the turn check but I think I like betting to get value from straight draws or a rare pair. One of us was going to bet the river anyway (him if he has the flush) so we may as well charge the straight draws now and check back the river instead of the turn.

Really tempted to 3bet the flop. Whether to do so comes down to how merged we think his range is and whether he can follow through on the turn with his draws. I think based on his raise size and him being a fish he could have a merged range and he's unlikely to follow through on the turn so I think I like the 3bet here.
 
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I bet bigger both pre and on the flop. Pre is petty but the flop defo needs a much bigger bet vs a fish on a wet flop.

Don't mind the turn check but I think I like betting to get value from straight draws or a rare pair. One of us was going to bet the river anyway (him if he has the flush) so we may as well charge the straight draws now and check back the river instead of the turn.

Really tempted to 3bet the flop. Whether to do so comes down to how merged we think his range is and whether he can follow through on the turn with his draws. I think based on his raise size and him being a fish he could have a merged range and he's unlikely to follow through on the turn so I think I like the 3bet here.

While 3betting the flop may be valid, I'm usually wary to do that with TPTK... Almost always folds out worse hands, and doesn't stop better from continuing.

So turn you think bet/fold??
 
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I'm calling in this spot even though I'm pretty sure i've lost. Lolbadatpoker.
 
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Honestly, against fish 3betting this flop is just printing money, they have top pair worse kicker enough that its super sexy, oh and sometimes they have draws which wont fold either, don't want turn cards scaring him away if he has JQ or JT.
 
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While 3betting the flop may be valid, I'm usually wary to do that with TPTK... Almost always folds out worse hands, and doesn't stop better from continuing.

I'm wary of doing so for the same reasons but this is a case were it's looking decent.

Villain is a big fish, there are plenty of flush draws and straight draws, overpairs are very unlikely given his limp/call and despite the wet board and loose player there is still only 6 twopair combos to be afraid off (J9) along with only 7sets that 99/JJ may well raise pre. Villains fishyness and raise size make weaker Jx possible holdings despite the checkraise normally ruling these hands out.
 
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Ok, you've convinced me. :)

Thanks for all the feedback on the hand, guys!
 
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