$4 NLHE Full Ring: Did I Play This Bad? 1st HA

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 18/4/2

Merge Network Hand #57376720-520 begins at 2012/06/24 8:40 pm

Hero Stats (Vp:17 Pfr:6 Af:infinite) $2.26
SkooopS Stats (Vp:18 Pfr:4 Af:2) $4.43

Seat 1 (AccioChips) is the dealer
Dangottacall posts the small blind 0.02
JohnyUtah13 posts the big blind 0.04
PFunke folds
CrazyxBob folds
003bet folds
SKooopS raises to 0.18
(hero) calls 0.18
6pro8newt folds
AccioChips calls 0.18
Dangottacall folds
JohnyUtah13 folds
Flop: [Ks 6c Tc]
SKooopS bets 0.40
(hero) raises to 1.20
AccioChips folds
SKooopS raises to 2.00
(hero) raises to 2.08
SKooopS calls 0.08
Turn: 9♠
River: [Th]
Action has ended
(hero) shows [Qd Kd] Two Pair, Kings and Tens
SKooopS shows [?]

This is my first real HA post so hopefully I didn't post it too wrong... The question is really: Did I play the sequence of events right? Also, I don't know if i'm supposed to mention whether I won or lost(I know not to post results...), but i'm posting here so that should give a hint...:rolleyes: lol...

This game was my first true attempt at moving from LHE to NLHE... I think i'm gonna stay where I'm at for now... too many muggers & gangsters on NLHE...:D jk... Any advice would be appreciated...
 
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Thanx Deco. The converter sure is the better way and a lot easier to use than I thought. Reposted the results again below so I guess it works well with Merge...

Now you were saying to fold pre-flop? or since I didn't, to just call the flop? slightly confused... could you explain a tiny bit more?


Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1805511
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SB: $2.76
BB: $6.14
UTG: $3.63
UTG+1: $2.49
UTG+2: $7.89
MP1: $4.43
Hero (MP2): $2.26
CO: $4.17
BTN: $4.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP2 with Q
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K
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3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.18, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.18, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.60) K
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6
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T
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(3 players)
MP1 bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN folds, MP1 raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $2.08 all in, MP1 calls $0.08

Turn: ($4.76) 9
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(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($4.76) T
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(2 players - 1 is all in)
 
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Start EVERY hand with 100bb!

Fold pre. Villain raises 4% and crushes KQs when he opens preflop.
 
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Now you were saying to fold pre-flop? or since I didn't, to just call the flop? slightly confused... could you explain a tiny bit more?

Villains pfr = 4%. We're looking at a range consisting mostly of {QQ+, AK, AQ}. These hands destroy KQ especially when we hit. AK/KK/AA will stack us when we hit our king. QQ/KK/AA/AQ will stack us when we hit our queen. When we miss all these hands still beat us.

This hand is an extreme example of when we should definitly fold KQs. Personally I do it vs most players vs a MP raise because their range will be pretty tight, when they miss they will likely c-bet us off the hand and given their tight range we can't really get tricky postflop and take the pot from them. I'd call here if I'm against a fish with a mid/high PFR or if I'm against LAG and I'm on the button.

Postflop the draws your hoping he has are unlikely to have raised preflop.
 
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Also in addition to what the other two have already said your stats look awful (17/6). I'd really look into why your stats are looking fishy.
 
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Ye it was out of the scope of the hand so I didn't mention it but I gotta concur they are fishy stats.

You want a tight gap between your VPIP/PFR. I usually give my irl friends I coach one of these hand charts to get their opening ranges on track.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/tightplay.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/averageplay.png/
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3041/looseplay.png
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8636/6manplay.png

Red = Raise from EP
Yellow = Raise from MP
Dark green = Raise from LP
Green = Raise from Button
white/green = Steal

I'd recomend the tight one. It isn't perfect as it could do with a wider stealing range but it's a good starting point.
lol I've made that hard to read.

As for flatting ranges I'd recomend an ultra tight range of:
22-JJ/AQ from when we're in the blinds vs a steal
22-JJ/AQ/AJ/KJs/ATs vs a steal when we're on the button.
22-JJ flatting else where as long as villain is almost fullstacked and hasn't 3bet.

Probably giving you information you don't need or want but figured I'd get it out there for anyone who's stats look a bit iffy all the same. :)
 
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Fold pre. Villain raises 4% and crushes KQs when he opens preflop.

Yeah, starting with the minimum of $2.40 when the maximum allowed being $4.00 was just plain stupid... (goes against everything members have been saying to me/others since day 1...) This was a first attempt at NLHE and I guess I put "scared" money on the table... amazing how experienced/regulars players at the table seem to know this... As for the stats the I made the assumption that our stats we're fairly close... I won't make that assumption again.

Villains pfr = 4%. We're looking at a range consisting mostly of {QQ+, AK, AQ}. These hands destroy KQ
especially when we hit. AK/KK/AA will stack us when we hit our king. QQ/KK/AA/AQ will stack us when we hit our queen. When
we miss all these hands still beat us.

This hand is an extreme example of when we should definitly fold KQs. Personally I do it vs most players vs a MP raise
because their range will be pretty tight, when they miss they will likely c-bet us off the hand and given their tight range
we can't really get tricky postflop and take the pot from them. I'd call here if I'm against a fish with a mid/high PFR or
if I'm against LAG and I'm on the button.

Postflop the draws your hoping he has are unlikely to have raised preflop.
Funny how I spent the time going over the VPIP chart ranges (5,10,15,20%, etc...) and got led in with the lure of KQs. Read many an article where a lot of people have referred to these cards as traps if playing incorrectly. You ever get that bad feeling when you know you just "stepped on a landmine", triggers depressed but now you know you can't lift you're foot off of it? lol... that's how I felt when I raised him on the flop after my king hit and he went over me... At that point I felt I had like 88 cents left and felt I had no other choice but to see my wrong decision through... Yeah, reading is one thing but applying it properly is a whole other matter... Another part of my faulty reasoning is the fact that I figured I had position on him and totally wasn't expecting the re-raise...

Also in addition to what the other two have already said your stats look awful (17/6). I'd really
look into why your stats are looking fishy.
Something I'll have to work on Blue'... Read an article on range-balancing afterwards on PokerBank. Believe it or not, after this game I played in a freeroll where I had almost perfectly balanced stats for whatever type of style I was playing at the time... ie, 10/10, 17/15, 22/22, etc... Players seemed to have an incredibly hard time reading my hands I think... Either way a good difference is like 50-75+%? or something like that...? I'm still unsure...

Ye it was out of the scope of the hand so I didn't mention it but I gotta concur they are fishy stats.

You want a tight gap between your VPIP/PFR. I usually give my irl friends I coach one of these hand charts to get their
opening ranges on track...
....
Getting to going through these right now...

Once again, a sincere thanx to all of you... I know I can be/seem real difficult sometimes(...still working on my stats for that too... :D ) so just even taking the time to give good honest comments is appreciated... (...gotta admit tho...'Sumguy warned me about this a while back... doh...)
 
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Yeah, starting with the minimum of $2.40 when the maximum allowed being $4.00 was just plain stupid... (goes against everything members have been saying to me/others since day 1...) This was a first attempt at NLHE and I guess I put "scared" money on the table... amazing how experienced/regulars players at the table seem to know this...
Honestly any time I see someone with less than 100bb I instantly mark them as a fish. If they're not then I can change the tag later, but I almost never have to change it.
 
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