$4 NLHE Full Ring: Did I do anything wrong?

$4 NL HE Full Ring: Did I do anything wrong?

Hi there

I am very new to poker, have just started playing for real money two weeks ago and this is my first post on these forums. I had a couple of hands today that I thought I played fairly well but lost out on both of them. I would like some help as to whether or not I played them correctly and what you think I could of done better. Any help is much appreciated

Hand 1

pokerstars Game #32104386247: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2009/08/27 15:07:00 AEST [2009/08/27 1:07:00 ET]
Table 'Lorcia' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: stubzy11 ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 2: dark388 ($2.88 in chips)
Seat 3: eyrkd ($5.19 in chips)
Seat 4: kamryn966 ($0.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Alvaro_CH ($2.92 in chips)
Seat 6: 13zoomer13 ($1.07 in chips)
Seat 8: children666 ($4.94 in chips)
Seat 9: TokenStealer ($0.77 in chips)
markpomc will be allowed to play after the button
children666: posts small blind $0.01
TokenStealer: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stubzy11 [Qc As]
stubzy11: calls $0.02
dark388: calls $0.02
eyrkd: folds
kamryn966: raises $0.18 to $0.20
Alvaro_CH: folds
13zoomer13: folds
children666: folds
TokenStealer: folds
stubzy11: calls $0.18
dark388: calls $0.18
*** FLOP *** [3s 5c Qd]
stubzy11: bets $0.40
dark388: calls $0.40
kamryn966: raises $0.20 to $0.60 and is all-in
stubzy11: calls $0.20
dark388: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [3s 5c Qd] K♥
stubzy11: bets $0.02
dark388: calls $0.02
*** RIVER *** [3s 5c Qd Kh] K♦
stubzy11: bets $0.10
dark388: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.10) returned to stubzy11
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stubzy11: shows [Qc As] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
stubzy11 collected $0.04 from side pot
kamryn966: shows [Ks Qh] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
kamryn966 collected $2.33 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.47 Main pot $2.33. Side pot $0.04. | Rake $0.10
Board [3s 5c Qd Kh Kd]
Seat 1: stubzy11 showed [Qc As] and won ($0.04) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 2: dark388 folded on the River
Seat 3: eyrkd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kamryn966 showed [Ks Qh] and won ($2.33) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 5: Alvaro_CH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 13zoomer13 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: children666 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: TokenStealer (big blind) folded before Flop



Hand 2

PokerStars Game #32104406643: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2009/08/27 15:08:03 AEST [2009/08/27 1:08:03 ET]
Table 'Lorcia' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: stubzy11 ($0.97 in chips)
Seat 2: dark388 ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 3: eyrkd ($5.19 in chips)
Seat 4: kamryn966 ($2.33 in chips)
Seat 5: Alvaro_CH ($2.92 in chips)
Seat 6: 13zoomer13 ($1.07 in chips)
Seat 8: children666 ($4.93 in chips)
Seat 9: TokenStealer ($0.75 in chips)
TokenStealer: posts small blind $0.01
stubzy11: posts big blind $0.02
markpomc: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stubzy11 [Th 5h]
dark388: calls $0.02
eyrkd: folds
kamryn966: calls $0.02
Alvaro_CH: calls $0.02
13zoomer13: calls $0.02
children666: folds
TokenStealer: calls $0.01
stubzy11: checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 5c Qd]
TokenStealer: checks
stubzy11: bets $0.10
dark388: folds
kamryn966: folds
Alvaro_CH: folds
13zoomer13: calls $0.10
TokenStealer: folds
*** TURN *** [5s 5c Qd] J♦
kamryn966 leaves the table
stubzy11: bets $0.10
13zoomer13: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [5s 5c Qd Jd] Q♥
mattybaba joins the table at seat #4
stubzy11: bets $0.20
13zoomer13: calls $0.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stubzy11: shows [Th 5h] (a full house, Fives full of Queens)
13zoomer13: shows [Qs Ac] (a full house, Queens full of Fives)
13zoomer13 collected $0.92 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.92 | Rake $0
Board [5s 5c Qd Jd Qh]
Seat 1: stubzy11 (big blind) showed [Th 5h] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Queens
Seat 2: dark388 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: eyrkd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kamryn966 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Alvaro_CH folded on the Flop
Seat 6: 13zoomer13 showed [Qs Ac] and won ($0.92) with a full house, Queens full of Fives
Seat 8: children666 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: TokenStealer (small blind) folded on the Flop

Don't include the results of the hand, and convert your hands so they're easier to read. Like this:


Hand #1

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/253613
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $1.75
UTG+1: $2.88
MP1: $5.19
MP2: $0.80
CO: $2.92
BTN: $1.07
SB: $4.94
BB: $0.77

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Q♣ A♠
Hero calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.18, UTG+1 calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.63) 3♠ 5♣ Q♦ (3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40, MP2 raises to $0.60 all in, Hero calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20

Turn: ($2.43) K♥ (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02

River: ($2.47) K♦ (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $0.10



Hand #2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($0.97)
UTG ($2.06)
UTG+1 ($5.19)
MP1 ($2.33)
MP2 ($2.92)
CO ($1.07)
Button ($4.93)
SB ($0.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10♥ 5♥
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12) 5♠ 5♣ Q♦ (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.32) J♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10

River: ($0.52) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20

Hand 1: Raise preflop, shove the turn.
Hand 2: The turn card is a good card to check/raise, and if you're going to lead the turn, your bet sizing is horrible. Bet close to pot.

You bet too small, and you're too passive preflop. You probably play the same loose/passive game that most 2$ NL players play.

Read this thread for ring game play at micro cash games.

https://www.cardschat.com/f49/how-beat-nl-10-isnt-book-90173/

But yeah u need to raise preflop, spesh with AQ. He sucked out on u, dont sweat it.
The other hand, what c9h13no3 said. Ur bet is too low on flop. On the turn bet pot or shove bcos he's got Q-x or drawing on turn...

Hey thanks for the replies. Sorry bout the original post, I have since read the posting guidlines about results etc and will keep that in mind.

I know im probably playing the same sort of game as most others at this level but Im obviously hoping to improve with your guys help.

Ukaliks, thanks for the link. I have been through and read the thread, ive also read a couple of other good threads about microlimitstoday aswell.

Anymore links or advice will be appreciated

stubzy11 said:

Anymore links or advice will be appreciated

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Look at the Golden Archives and Strategy Articles sections of the forums.

One of the first things I read here is ChuckTs 10K post in GA, strongly recommend it.

Your bets are too small...this is something I have just figured out for myself. If you try to string along an opponent for maximum value, they can definitely suck out on you. When you have the best hand, bet like you have the best hand...unless you have the absolute nut hand, in which case feel free to let your opponents see cards to hang themselves with.

Yeh I am just kinda figuring this aswell. I have probably read it somewhere but not in laymans terms like that.

So the key is when you have a very good hand (two pair or trips) on the flop you need to force your opponents out of their draws before they become flushes or straights.

stubzy11 said:

you need to force your opponents out of their draws before they become flushes or straights.

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Um, no. You want them to call with their draws. But you want them to pay too much to do so.

If someone has a flush draw on the flop, they have about a 20% chance (or 1:4) of hitting their flush on the turn. Thus, anytime they call a bet that gives them worse than 4:1 pot odds, you profit. The worse pot odds they call, the more you profit. So if your opponent will call a pot sized bet (2:1 pot odds), then bet that much.

Of course, if he calls with terrible pot odds, and then you proceed to spew a TON of money to him when he makes his flush, that usually negates his bad call on previous streets.

But the key is this: Bet as large as you think a draw will call, and get your money in the pot while you're ahead, and when they suck out pay them nothing.

***WARNING*** completely unrelated opinion here..

If you're new to poker you might want to play some SnG's and tournaments first. Cash games can murder a bankroll quickly.