$4 NLHE Full Ring: Flopped 2 Pair Facing Action on Flushy Board

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I wanted to fold the turn but for some unknown reason i ended up calling. Probably i was tired of playing weak tight.

If he has the flush i have only 4 outs. Should i have folded the turn? Is river a fold even though he has higher AF

on the riv?

Villian: 32/16, 3bet:1.9, AF: 1.7, AF by street: 1.3, 1.9, 3.5. (342 hands)



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SB: $12.38
BB: $9.38
UTG: $4
UTG+1: $1.97
MP: $8.64
MP+1 Hero: $4
CO: $4.36
BTN: $4.19

Pre-flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP+1 and dealt :10s4: :ac4:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, CO folds, BTN calls $0.12, BB folds

Flop: ($0.30) :6s4: :ah4: :10h4: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70) :6s4: :ah4: :10h4: :9h4: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.42, BTN raises to $1.19, Hero calls $0.77

River: ($3.08) :6s4: :ah4: :10h4: :9h4: :5s4: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.68 (All-in)
 
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Stop worrying about AF over small samples, its pretty meaningless and even if we had 3k hands here it probably doesn't matter, think about the line villain is taking instead. I think the turns probably a fold vs most villains, river is definitely a fold unless you have some kind of read where he just raises turn bets a ton, raises flush cards repping flushes and doesnt stop bluffing when he sees weakness i.e. the river, in that case you'd call the turn and check call the river. I highly doubt you will find many players like that, the majority are raising here with hands that crush you and just calling with their weaker top pairs, two pairs, even sets sometimes because they're usually scared of the flush themselves.
 
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Think about his range in this way:

He flatted you on the button, which means it's very unlikely he is overplaying some big Ace. Because he is mostly passive, he is flatting a lot of marginal hands, especially on the button. And when people start adding marginal hands to their range, they start with suited cards. Every suited Ace, King and most suited Queens and Jacks are in his range as well as connectors and one-gappers like 98hh 86hh etc.

Turn raises are scary, he thinks you have at least a big Ace. Mostly, he doesn't care what you have because he has the nuts.
 
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+1 to the posts above me.

Fold the turn, its not close.
Bet more on the flop, when you hit big hands vs fish you want to bet big, when you flop a big hand on a drawy flop you want to bet big. I make this 25c - 4/5 pot.
 
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easy fold once he raises your turn bet. Passives like to call with marginal hands. So when they build the size of pots, you can assume they have better. If you fold the better hand once in a while because they chose that moment to make an uncharacteristic move, so what? You don't win a small to middling pot the small portion of the time he's making a play, but you avoid losing a larger pot the large majority of the time when he has what he's repping.
 
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