$4 NLHE Full Ring: Calling 3B IP

I know calling 3B's can be bad but was IP. No stats on villian, just sat down...

Merge $4.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players

Hero (MP2): $3.88
CO: $1.53
BTN: $3.85
SB: $7.16
BB: $3.69
UTG: $4.00
UTG+1: $2.76
MP1: $1.56

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP2 with J♦ J♠
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.44, Hero calls $0.32

Flop: ($0.90) 3♥ 8♥ 4♦ (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero??

Repping AA/KK, but overbet? Seems bad as only call would be a set...

From what someone had told me from a similar hand, The reason why he raised you 44 is because he thinks your a fish and get away with betting higher.

Probably fold pre to his 3bet but if your planning on setminning well you've missed the flop and you fold there. If you know he's in a lot of hands and bluffing a lot though this would change things a little bit and could be a shove on the basis he's going in with random everything.


Lastnight i had KK and my villain shoved the flop and he ended up having AA.... was a danger board like 6h7h8d

urrgh. vs a complete non fully stacked unknown this is tough. Really could go either way here. I think I'd fold but don't feel to confident about the decision.

Not sure what to do post but I can at least reassure you calling pre with JJ in position is pretty standard I think its the right play.

This is such a ridiculous play that it's hard to apply any reasoning to it.
I suspect it's either a value bet with QQ+ or set, or villain is a maniac who is randomly mashing buttons.

Based on the pf I'm inclined to think it's the former. But it's certainly close.

BigThingWithHolesInIt said:

This is such a ridiculous play that it's hard to apply any reasoning to it.
I suspect it's either a value bet with QQ+ or set, or villain is a maniac who is randomly mashing buttons.

Based on the pf I'm inclined to think it's the former. But it's certainly close.

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clicking buttons ftw

this time I'm thinking click that little button that says "fold." I know it's there for decoration and all, but you don't want it to get dusty do you?

I fold unless I have a note which says "aggrotard".

i think i call cause he doesnt have a full stack, its a spot where either is fine imo, nothing you do there is going to alter your bottom line or win rate.

i think u shoulda have re-raised his 0.44 bet to 1$ and if he goes all or re-raises u fold cause u know ur against bigger pair, and if he calls u got him with this flop

donkysnake said:

i think u shoulda have re-raised his 0.44 bet to 1$ and if he goes all or re-raises u fold cause u know ur against bigger pair, and if he calls u got him with this flop

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And you are raising a hand so that only better hands can come and challenge you? How is that a good thing?



Anyway,for OP, from my experience at the lowest stakes possible, this can indeed go either way. I lean towards a fold just cause 4nlers have a retarded 3bet range of QQ+. His incomplete stack is the only confounding factor....

RodneyC86 said:

And you are raising a hand so that only better hands can come and challenge you? How is that a good thing?



Anyway,for OP, from my experience at the lowest stakes possible, this can indeed go either way. I lean towards a fold just cause 4nlers have a retarded 3bet range of QQ+. His incomplete stack is the only confounding factor....

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lol, but if he re raises u fold JJ pre flop, and loose only 1$, instead of loosing it all when the board is 328 and he bets and u have a dillema, does hes got an overpair, or does hes got AK or AQ and tries to take it by making it look like AA or KK ...

You could flip a coin here. Hard to fold on such a favorable flop vs. an unknown. If he's going to play AA like this I feel like we let him get us once like this and then never again. Of course it helps he's not a full stack. I think you'll see bricked AK or random hand often enough.

donkysnake said:

lol, but if he re raises u fold JJ pre flop, and loose only 1$, instead of loosing it all when the board is 328 and he bets and u have a dillema, does hes got an overpair, or does hes got AK or AQ and tries to take it by making it look like AA or KK ...

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Actually given micro stakes, a person with KA and AQ will not likely triple or even double barrel if they miss. And we fold nothing in most microfish 3et range so it's like throwing money at them

As others have said this really could go either way.

However I'm folding because I've come up with a new motto for 2,4 and 5NL and that is "just fold and wait for a better spot" I've come to realise that I can let go of my ego in close spots, because the fish will give me plenty of other opportunities to increase my bankroll, why should I put money on the line and potentially put myself on tilt if I lose. I know I shouldn't tilt if he shows AA, but why risk it right



Also an interesting spot I had at 2NL just yesterday I don't have the history but it went something like this

QQ in EP or MP I raise to 8c get raised by the button to some amount, not even a really big raise something like 15-22 but suddenly I had a baaad feeling, I don't even know why, because he was playing quite a lot of pots and didn't seem afraid to play vs strength but for some reason I felt like he had it this time. I thought for a while, normally at 2NL I'm getting QQ AIPF but I chose to flat, AKx I check he shoves I fold he shows AAA
don't know why my instincts were so spot on there, because he was splashing around a lot so normally im losing my stack here, maybe it was the 3 bet size or maybe he hadn't been 3 betting much, or maybe I was just being timid that time either way I lost the minimum

Probably calling because if he has QQ+ he would be retarded to shove flop I think

baudib1 said:

You could flip a coin here. Hard to fold on such a favorable flop vs. an unknown. If he's going to play AA like this I feel like we let him get us once like this and then never again. Of course it helps he's not a full stack. I think you'll see bricked AK or random hand often enough.

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im down for this