$4 NLHE Full Ring: AJ - MP - VS FISH - NLHE FR 2NL

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 45/12/50

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($1.98)
BB ($1.41)
UTG ($1.97)
UTG+1 ($4.17)
Hero (MP1) ($5.06)
MP2 ($4.93)
MP3 ($2)
CO ($8.46)
Button ($3.11)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.14, 2 folds, CO calls $0.14, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.33) 9 , 5 , A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, CO raises to $1, Hero ??????

Vilain is 45 / 12 / 50 over 130 hands

Have you ever seen him raise the flop before? What did he SD? I mean AJ is certainly ahead of his preflop flatting range but if he never raises postflop and he suddenly starts now I think you can fold. If you've seen him do this previously with less than TPTK, get it in.

Edit: is that 50 his AF or AFq???

If it's his AF, don't fold.

All i had was those stats. I think fold was the option, let me post the rest of the hand, see if you wouldve done something differently.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($1.98)
BB ($1.41)
UTG ($1.97)
UTG+1 ($4.17)
Hero (MP1) ($5.06)
MP2 ($4.93)
MP3 ($2)
CO ($8.46)
Button ($3.11)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , J
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.14, 2 folds, CO calls $0.14, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.33) 9 , 5 , A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $0.78

Turn: ($2.33) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.86, CO calls $0.86

River: ($4.05) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.04, CO calls $1.04

Total pot: $6.13 | Rake: $0.29

WVHillbilly said:

Have you ever seen him raise the flop before? What did he SD? I mean AJ is certainly ahead of his preflop flatting range but if he never raises postflop and he suddenly starts now I think you can fold. If you've seen him do this previously with less than TPTK, get it in.

Edit: is that 50 his AF or AFq???

If it's his AF, don't fold.

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???

51.48 afq

AF : 2.56 --> What exactly is AF ?

I think this is probably a fold. It'd be interesting to note if he's getting out of line with AT/A8 type stuff but I'd expect sets/A9 a lot.

edit: given the rest of the hand, wtf. idk.

Not to sound like a broken record but you are playing AJo from MP1. This hand is exactly why you shouldn't do that. There are just too many hands that beat you here. If you bet he could re-raise you and if you check he could bet and you won't know where you stand without committing a lot of chips to a marginal hand like AJo.

True with a range of 45/12 he is playing such a wide range but what hands that called your preflop raise and then re-raise you have you beat? The problem with playing back at super loose players is if you re-raise them all-in you need to be ahead of the middle of his raising & betting range not his limping/ calling range. With a PFR of 12 he could be raising with any Ace (this is actually pretty common at 2nl/ 5nl) so you could be against AA AK AQ A9 A5. These players will limp/ call with virtually ATC but when they raise they at least have an A, K or pair.

Do yourself a favor, save AJo for LP1, not MP1.

fx20736 said:

Not to sound like a broken record but you are playing AJo from MP1. This hand is exactly why you shouldn't do that. There are just too many hands that beat you here. If you bet he could re-raise you and if you check he could bet and you won't know where you stand without committing a lot of chips to a marginal hand like AJo.

True with a range of 45/12 he is playing such a wide range but what hands that called your preflop raise and then re-raise you have you beat? The problem with playing back at super loose players is if you re-raise them all-in you need to be ahead of the middle of his raising & betting range not his limping/ calling range. With a PFR of 12 he could be raising with any Ace (this is actually pretty common at 2nl/ 5nl) so you could be against AA AK AQ A9 A5. These players will limp/ call with virtually ATC but when they raise they at least have an A, K or pair.

Do yourself a favor, save AJo for LP1, not MP1.

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Disagree completely. Not saying this isn't a fold but against the right villain it's certainly not.

Villain in this hand is 46/0/3 over about 35 hands:

Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: $119.20
Hero (MP): $102.90
MP+1: $82.75
LP: $100.00
CO: $93.95
BTN: $57.75
SB: $144.40
BB: $100.00
UTG: $94.35

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has T:spade: A:spade:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $3.50, fold, fold

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players) 4:club: K:spade: A:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($16.50, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero bets $9.00, BTN calls $9.00

River: ($34.50, 2 players) 7:diamond:
Hero bets $13.00, BTN raises to $41.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $28.25

BTN shows 5:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces)
Hero shows T:spade: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces)
Hero wins $114.00


Villain here is 40/18/2

Full Tilt - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $210.40
UTG: $183.15
UTG+1: $66.50
MP: $86.70
MP+1: $102.25
LP: $100.60
CO: $64.50
Hero (BTN): $111.45
SB: $100.00

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has J:heart: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $2.00, LP calls $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $11.00, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $9.00, fold

Flop: ($25.50, 2 players) J:club: 9:diamond: A:diamond:
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $18.00, MP+1 calls $18.00

Turn: ($61.50, 2 players) 9:heart:
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $35.00, MP+1 calls $35.00

River: ($131.50, 2 players) 6:heart:
MP+1 bets $38.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $38.25

MP+1 shows A:heart: 4:heart: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
Hero shows J:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero wins $205.00

fx20736 said:

Not to sound like a broken record but you are playing AJo from MP1. This hand is exactly why you shouldn't do that. There are just too many hands that beat you here. If you bet he could re-raise you and if you check he could bet and you won't know where you stand without committing a lot of chips to a marginal hand like AJo.

True with a range of 45/12 he is playing such a wide range but what hands that called your preflop raise and then re-raise you have you beat? The problem with playing back at super loose players is if you re-raise them all-in you need to be ahead of the middle of his raising & betting range not his limping/ calling range. With a PFR of 12 he could be raising with any Ace (this is actually pretty common at 2nl/ 5nl) so you could be against AA AK AQ A9 A5. These players will limp/ call with virtually ATC but when they raise they at least have an A, K or pair.

Do yourself a favor, save AJo for LP1, not MP1.

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If I have a fish in a table i'll isolate anyday with AJo and I am considering its the better ace in a situation like this. I just want to make sure I made the right decision, it happens in fact I have, I've done plays like this on 47 players for better all ins decision alot. In this particular situation it unfortunatly dint pay out, but I think he would've played A5o the same way.

I think its a fold in this situation though.

Really curious to know what he had

At this point of my cash game saga I think AJo is better folded from MP1. Now as I gain knowledge and experience both on the tables and using my HUD then maybe I'll start taking advantage of hands like this vs. certain players. Until that day comes for me...it's a fold.