$4 NLHE Full Ring: 3 of a kind versus possible straight draw???

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doomasiggy

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First hand playing against this guy, no reads.

pokerstars Hand #75195305410: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/02/07 19:07:54 WET [2012/02/07 14:07:54 ET]
Table 'Eumelos V' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: 84steven1984 ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: doomasiggy ($6.19 in chips)
Seat 6: Wonderrbaar ($5 in chips)
doomasiggy: posts small blind $0.02
Wonderrbaar: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to doomasiggy :10c4: :10d4:
84steven1984: folds
doomasiggy: raises $0.10 to $0.15
Wonderrbaar: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** :7d4: :9s4: :10s4:
doomasiggy: checks
Wonderrbaar: checks
*** TURN *** :7d4: :9s4: :10s4: :5c4:
doomasiggy: bets $0.10
Wonderrbaar: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** :7d4: :9s4: :10s4: :5c4: :jh4:
ZloEg joins the table at seat #8
doomasiggy: bets $0.15
Wonderrbaar: raises $0.60 to $0.75
giani 2 joins the table at seat #7
doomasiggy: ???

Following mistakes I made:

1) Not betting the flop
2) betting small on the turn


Should I have folded the river though?
 
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RVladimiro

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I'm not folding or raising the river and flat call his raise unless it was a shove. I would fire 3 bullets though...
 
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you need to bet this flop. you have top set with tons of draws why would we check and give them a free card?
 
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I'd make it $0.20 pre. I have strong hand therefore I check and don't build pot is horrible. You know mistakes on f + t so less said about them the better.

What were you trying to achieve with river bet? I'd probably c/c river because I can't get away from my set.
 
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I'd make it $0.20 pre. I have strong hand therefore I check and don't build pot is horrible. You know mistakes on f + t so less said about them the better.

What were you trying to achieve with river bet? I'd probably c/c river because I can't get away from my set.

This.

As already said bet bigger, a lot bigger, preflop, flop and turn, enough said about that.

River I just don't see much worse calling so might as well c/c and let those busted flush draws try to rep an 8. I don't normally play this low though, I mean if people are regularly calling 3 streets here on this wet of a board with A9 then by all means bet the river but I kind of doubt they are.
 
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This.

As already said bet bigger, a lot bigger, preflop, flop and turn, enough said about that.

I know I should've bet on the flop but why bigger pre?

River I just don't see much worse calling so might as well c/c and let those busted flush draws try to rep an 8. I don't normally play this low though, I mean if people are regularly calling 3 streets here on this wet of a board with A9 then by all means bet the river but I kind of doubt they are.

So bet the turn call the river?
 
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Because you have TT and have to play the rest of the hand OOP.
 
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Actually my default is 4xbb regardless of position, although with opponent dependant factors/table dynamics taken into account I may tweak it.. Reason I may raise bigger OOP is a smaller SPR decreases their positional advantage. In position small pots increases our positional advantage.

Also you can raise bigger from OOP because generally your range is stronger so increases value. From IP you raise with less storng hand so it makes sense ro raise smaller to lose less whilst not giving much away with your opening raise size, also it means you can call 3-bets lighter IP as you've kept the pot small and now have playable hands and SPR psot flop as good players adjust to you opening alot from lp and 3-bet accoridngly. I didn't type that as coherntly as I'd of liekd but I think I get the general point across.

Also the reason my standard is 4xbb is:

pre 8bb (4bb)
flop 23bb (7.5bb)
turn 68bb (22.5bb)
river 200bb (66bb)

nice an easy to stack off when I want and get value over 3 streets.
 
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It's really hard to answer a spot like this because I would never be here. Pot flop, pot turn, probably just shove the river too depending on the stacks at that point.
 
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