$4 NLHE 6-max: villain raises my cbet on the flop.my move with 77?

888 Poker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (CO): 143.5 BB
BTN: 23 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, hands: 136)
SB: 22.5 BB (VPIP: 90.91, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
BB: 41.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
UTG: 34.5 BB (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP: 102 BB (VPIP: 12.38, PFR: 12.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 105)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7d 7s
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 5h 3s 2s
Hero bets 5.5 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (29.5 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, BTN bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River : (47.5 BB, 2 players) 8d

Hero shows 7d 7s (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 15%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows Td Th (Two Pair, Tens and Eights) (Pre 81%, Flop 85%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins 45.25 BB

shove on flop, lots of shorties will do this with worse (or even terrible) hands.

twohaha said:

shove on flop, lots of shorties will do this with worse (or even terrible) hands.

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What would you say if he had a full stack?

Leave the table when it is a shortstack directly on your left . You have no good reason to be at that table. There is no big fish on your right. You need to learn to table select.

He's got a 90vpip at the table, don't go anywhere. This is rather villain dependent, but I think it is close either way in what you do.

Youre lucky he didnt bet decent amount on the turn and river.

jsh169 said:

He's got a 90vpip at the table, don't go anywhere. This is rather villain dependent, but I think it is close either way in what you do.

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The 90 VPIP has 22.5 blinds and 4 out of 6 times he does not have position on him. He is staying with almost 150Bbs with 4 very short stack in his left most of the time. Skill equals zero at this table. The only full stack is the nit on his right. In the top of worse tables this will be the winner.

El Taco Gringo said:

888 Poker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (CO): 143.5 BB
BTN: 23 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 11.36, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 136)
SB: 22.5 BB (VPIP: 90.91, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
BB: 41.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
UTG: 34.5 BB (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP: 102 BB (VPIP: 12.38, PFR: 12.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 105)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7d 7s
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) 5h 3s 2s
Hero bets 5.5 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Turn : (29.5 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, BTN bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River : (47.5 BB, 2 players) 8d

Hero shows 7d 7s (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 15%, Turn 25%)
BTN shows Td Th (Two Pair, Tens and Eights) (Pre 81%, Flop 85%, Turn 75%)
BTN wins 45.25 BB

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Dear Senor Taco,

Here are my thoughts. I'm not as uber pro as these other guys, but you could, I think, have done a little hand reading to lose a little less money.

Raising pre is fine. If this guy is sitting here with 20 BB you don't need to worry too much about his short stack play, he might not even be aware of proper shortstack play.

Good to bet out on the flop, you likely have the best hand. Almost all aces are in his range, so you get a lot of value of those that made small pairs or gut shots, these draw-y hands are where you will be getting value from. That's the only reason you'd bet here, other wise it accomplishes nothing really.

But when you get reraised you have to start thinking. What hands would reraise you on the flop? It could be the following...

1) A smei-bluff. them gutshots and whatever, trying to end the hand early and put pressure on you while in position. Villain doesn't look that good, so we can safely assume this is less probable.

2) A pair of 5s. Also some bs like 2 pair, though these won't be in Villains range often enough to matter. 56 or A5s are the only legit options here. VPIP of 25 isn't super loose, so really let's assume those are the only 2 options here.

3) Another pocket pair. This seems to make the most sense *this is also why you never post villains hand/result on forums! * Pocket pairs, sets and the like would call a raise in position pre, and also attempt to build a pot with what is likely the best hand.

So either this guy lost his mind and is bluffing with air, or you are getting a little better than 2:1 on a call, hoping that you are against 66 or .. 44? lol

So, anyway you decide to call. If he were deeper stacked, then yea, you certainly fold to the 2nd barrel on the turn. You made your decision on the flop.

Annnd, as far as that is concerned, being able to use some forethought could have been useful. The dude's gonna be pretty damn pot committed after his flop re-raise. It's essentially a shove, bc hes gonna bet turn and you are going to have to call. So then why didn't he just shove? He's looking for a call above all else.

I dunno, just my thoughts, good luck and keep playing/posting

His bet looks like a value bet , he would shove with a semibluff , also since he is short we can assume he isnt calling us with speculative hands or even small pocket pairs which means his range is mostly big pairs or high cards , he would shove at best with high cards which leave us only one type of hand and thats a big-medium pair , there is no other hand who can do this play.

Well imo you are 100% beat here BUT shorties are rare occurence and they are usually bad or tilt a lot which means you can understimate his hand here , tilt shorties can do this play with any hand at all , if he is a serious player then you are beat , even if he has a flush draw here you are flipping at best because he will have overcards too and the other part of his range destroy you.