$4 NLHE 6-max: Optimal play? Or not to make this a habit?

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Just wanted to know some of the more experienced players thoughts on this hand. Well played? or not enough people going in?

888 Poker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: $2.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 9)
Hero (BTN): $4.00

SB: $6.60 (VPIP: 20.31, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 70)

BB: $4.25 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

UTG: $2.38 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

MP: $6.31 (VPIP: 30.84, PFR: 14.20, 3Bet Preflop: 8.44, Hands: 1,086)
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K:diamond: Q:heart:

UTG raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.42, 5 players) T:diamond: J:club: 7:heart:
BB bets $0.04, UTG raises to $0.08, MP raises to $0.35, CO raises to $1.92, Hero raises to $3.92, BB calls $3.88, fold, fold

Turn: ($10.61, 3 players) 6:heart:

River: ($10.61, 3 players) 9:club:
 
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Not enough pot odds + you are 200bb deep vs BB (who might have tried to induce a spazz with his minidonk) if he calls.

If you were in position to shove first then it is different due to fold equity (you shouldn't get calls from anything but 2P, sets, your own hand and made straights).

I would think BB has 98 here, CO looks like JT, KQ or a set.
 
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I really hope your joking... Because if you aren't, your too tight especially from the button because the button/CO is where we need to open up a little because that is where our strength and money is coming from.
 
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Not enough pot odds + you are 200bb deep vs BB (who might have tried to induce a spazz with his minidonk) if he calls.

If you were in position to shove first then it is different due to fold equity (you shouldn't get calls from anything but 2P, sets, your own hand and made straights).

I would think BB has 98 here, CO looks like JT, KQ or a set.

Tbh my mind was wanting everyone to have 2 pair or sets or even the lower straight... I had an open ender I know it's not that great odds I have 8 outs... Horrible if ppl have a set but it's not as bad as it looks if someone has 2pair since I have 2 overs I think... Next card could hit then board pairs it's not that rare..

LD are you including the implied odds? Because I was thinking nothing but stacking and getting all the ppl to come along to the party, was going for the big win.
 
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Is that right if the pots $10... and I invested 4 dollars that makes it 2.5:1 odds right?
 
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1) you are 2nd to go in, meaning the next one does have better odds to join but also on average has a better hand since he needs to beat 2 opponents

2) there are actually 2 pots being played for (community one, you vs BB) and with your odds you need to win both even though winning the side pot vs BB is enough to make you break even; BB should be ahead of you here whenever he calls since I don't see him going in light for 200bb

I am assuming your overcards are of little use vs 2 people and most of the time you need to hit the straight.
 
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I really hope your joking... Because if you aren't, your too tight especially from the button because the button/CO is where we need to open up a little because that is where our strength and money is coming from.

no im not joking, the CO has a pfr of 0....when he over 5bets he has your kqo crushed
yeah you are in positon but your not playing postion very well and taking the actions
in front of you into consideration.......at worst you should flat....but
im folding every time.
 
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Erm, Alfie... are you talking about preflop folding KQ after a raise and 3 callers? In position? :) Look at their opening ranges man, you are good here like always. Small sample yeah but VPIP 100, 31, 33... I would see that flop.

The whole 5bet thing is on the flop (but yes when he minidonks and then goes AI on the flop after all that action he is usually good).
 
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yeah sorry, i meant told flop, misread the hand.....pre's fine fold flop
 
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Do you realise I have an Open ender straight draw? :) Not just two overs.

I wanted everyone to call the hand... I wasn't after folds at all.
 
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Hmmm appears I've looked it up and this is what I get 31.4% is my chance to hit my card.
So just over 3:1 odds i'll need. Since my pot was only just over 10 dollars I didn't get the correct odds I needed say roughly very rough $13 pot size to make up for the chances of missing it. So needed one more to call and the SB to be 100bb at least.
 
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oh I did collect $14.54 but that's including my stack. not sure how the pot could say 10 but collect 14.54 bizzare... Oh I did win the hand and one person had 2 pair and the other had AJ
 
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