$4 NLHE 6-max: $ NLHE 6-max: 2NL AA facing heat on paired board

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$4 NL HE 6-max: $ NL HE 6-max: 2NL AA facing heat on paired board

full tilt poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $2.77
BTN: $0.64
SB: $1.19
Hero (BB): $2.11
UTG: $2.12

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A <font color='red'>♦</font> 9 <font color='black'>♣</font>
1 fold, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08) 7 <font color='black'>♣</font> 7 <font color='black'>♠</font> A <font color='red'>♥</font> (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.08, CO calls $0.08, BTN folds, SB folds

Turn: ($0.24) Q <font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $0.24, CO raises to $0.66, Hero calls $0.42

River: ($1.56) 2 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $1.35 all in, CO calls $1.35

Can we really fold to his turn raise here? I know the 7's are in his range and hes been passive PFR which should carry over to post flop but sometimes I think I just give them too much credit
 
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You bet the pot on the flop and turn, why? The board is as dry as it gets and the pot sized bet only makes sense if there's someone who is likely to call you with worse than an A. Even if you thought you were against another A you're either behind or splitting a huge % of the time.

As for the turn raise, it's an easy fold, I think.
The range that likely calls you on the flop is ahead of you and when he raises you're beat and should fold.

Also, why are you shoving the river? What do you want to call you or what are you trying to make him fold (do you really think you can get him to fold anything that beats you)?


I think in this hand you should check/call the flop and proceed cautiously, if the flop checks through then bet almost any turn and hope someone caught it and is bad enough to pay your now under represented A.
 
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You bet the pot on the flop and turn, why? The board is as dry as it gets and the pot sized bet only makes sense if there's someone who is likely to call you with worse than an A. Even if you thought you were against another A you're either behind or splitting a huge % of the time.

I think at the time I played this hand I was just cbetting any flops (as I thought thats what you do). Reading board texture is something I def need to work on more.

As for the turn raise, it's an easy fold, I think.
The range that likely calls you on the flop is ahead of you and when he raises you're beat and should fold.

Also, why are you shoving the river? What do you want to call you or what are you trying to make him fold (do you really think you can get him to fold anything that beats you)?

I was thinking he may have had Ax and that I could get him to fold his worse A2,3,4,5,6 and call with his better ones like A7,8,9,10. But now you point it out, he really isnt calling with anything worse, only better hands Aa/k/q. Again something I need to work on more when figuring out why I should be betting.


I think in this hand you should check/call the flop and proceed cautiously, if the flop checks through then bet almost any turn and hope someone caught it and is bad enough to pay your now under represented A.

Noted.

Thanks for the reply, it definitely helps find major problems when someone spells them out to you and gives their thought process.
 
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If you'd have raised PF then this would have been a good board to cbet, i always cbet an A high paired board, but as you checked it back it's hard to rep anything but a 7.

When you say he's passive is he a loose passive?? Like 35/5, 45/3 type of passive? if so then i fold to the turn raise tbh, generally when they put a raise in they've got a decent hand, that TPNK doesn't beat, i've seen loose passive's check call AK on all 3 streets in spots like this.

There's no reason to bet pot on the turn here either, if the board was two toned then a passive opponents range to valuebet against is big enough to make a bet on the turn but, this being a really dry board he's either got a 7 or an A that beats you imo, there's nothing for him to draw to and passive people only stick around and call if they have a draw or have hit the board with a pair, he may call a turn bet with 88-JJ but i think betting the turn is very thin, and tbh when he raises the turn i just put him on AQ or a 7 and i'm happy folding i think.

The river shoves spew though and is a really bad card to do it on as it doesnt change the hand in the slightest, nothing that a loose passive raises the turn with is folding to a river shove and your pretty much hoping he has a weaker ace, which i dont think is likely at all.

When you say that you were trying to get him to fold his worse A2,3,4 etc, again i'm working off you saying he's passive but he's never folding those there, although he would check them back, i'd have folded to the turn raise but on the river you've got to just check it b/c he checks back a lot there and you still have some SD value
 
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