$4 NLHE 6-max: Multiway 4Bet Pot, QQ Facing Allin on Low Flop

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ergingo

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Does he always have AA-KK or sets here?. It it possible that he is doing this with AKs, or maybe he has TT-JJ since he would
probably have raised PF with over pairs?

UTG: 31/24, 3bet:8, AF:4 over (331 hands).
BU: 21/10, 3bet:3, AF:2 (82 hands).
Hero: 11/7, 3bet:3, Fv3bet:50, 4bet:67, AF:4 (190 hands).
BB: 21/20, 3bet:8, Fv3bet:85, 4bet:11, AF:2 (305 hands)




Merge - $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem (6 players)
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SB Hero: $7.23
BB: $4
UTG: $41.34
MP: $2.69
CO: $8.72
BTN: $2.61

Pre-flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB and dealt :qd4: :qs4:
UTG raises to $0.14, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.24, Hero raises to $0.68, BB calls $0.64, UTG calls $0.54, BTN calls $0.44

Flop: ($2.72) :2s4: :9c4: :6s4: (4 players)
Hero bets $1.12, BB raises to $3.32 (All-in), 2 folds, Hero ?
 
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Yeah no one playing that low is flatting with Kings or Aces with two more after them who already showed strength. If he shows up with 9s here oh well, but I'm guessing 10s or Js
 
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:cool: loking he´s range, no doubth... CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Villain almost never has AA or KK here unless the villain lol.
Snap this off for sure, I don't know why this is hard for you? The point of 4bing pre is to get it in, now you have nice SPR how do you consider folding?
 
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Cold call from bb is sick and I think you're beat
 
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Find a new table. There has to be a ton of tables more worth your while than playing against guys with these stats.
 
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Cold call from bb is sick and I think you're beat

Agree but folding overpair w/ solid redraw getting 100000:1 doesn't make sense. If you're beat nh, note BB and move on.

If you're way sick on BBs cold call c/f flop. Cbetting with intention to fold (or I suppose in this situation, cbetting with no real plan) is retarded

EDIT: oops, thought flop was monotone. On my phone and it looked like all spades. Ignore my post.
 
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Thank you guys for the replies.

Being a nit i'm always looking for reasons to fold. Sure i am getting a good price to call but he is showing a lot of strenght shoving over
my cbet with 2 more players to act. I had a strong feeling that i was beat but i called anyway as it was only $2.20 more to call.
He had the aces and won the pot. The reason i posted this is the player with 1000 bb's called me a clown in chatbox for making that
call, and i wanted to know if calling was really that bad lol. But i agree that probably i can't fold after investing nearly half of my stack.

As for finding a new table i completely agree, but there isn't many options at merge as only 2-3 FR and 6-7 6max tables are running
at NL4 and all of the 6max tables occupied by same players who have taggy stats and sometimes a couple of occasional fish.
Today i stuck 2 buyins in similar tables then decided to stop playing for today because i didn't feel i had an edge over anyone and i
think it was the right decision. I'm break even at 6max in 6k hands and winning player at FR so maybe i should keep playing at FR
as it is more suited to my nitty style.
 
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It's not a clown call, and I think nine times out of ten a TAG villain's range will be something like {99+,AsKs,7s8s} -- in which case it's easy to ship it. As bgomez alluded to, one cautionary flag in this case is that BB's VPIP/PFR gap is only 1 percent over 300+ hands. Basically, this particular villain almost NEVER cold calls pre-flop, so that he is cold calling now with so much action in front of him could be viewed as a warning that his range is skewed towards {QQ+, AsKs} -- in which case we are a fair bit behind.
 
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