$4 NLHE 6-max: KJ suited from CO vs. floater

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 20/13/2

I am on CO with KhJh. I opened to 13c (3.25bb).

Villain, the BTN, calls. Blinds fold.

Flop: 8h3c7h

I cbet 24c, villain calls.

Turn: 5s

What is the best course of action to take here? Keep barreling?

I felt that if I bet again, it may fold him out. But if he calls again and the river is a dud then I am in an awkward situation.

I was pretty sure if I chk he would try to steal, against which I can shove. If he folds, then I win that extra bet. If he calls, I still have outs at least 9 outs (Unless he has an ace high flush draw).

Sure enough, he throws out 53c into the 80c pot. I shoved my remaining $2.70. He folds.

He had a WSD% around ~30% so I felt he was capable of folding a marginal hand to a chk/raise from a tight player. I had a tight table image (assuming he pays attention) and been playing ABC poker.

Good move on my part, or stupid?
 
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Would be nice to know what his Fold to Flop CBet is but you call him a floater so I assume it is not high. His overall stats 20/13 fit the image of that kind of player also, bit of a station/bad player. Would also be nice to know what his Turn Float Bet is or something about his postflop aggression like Total AF.

But overall, I like your line. Double barreling would of course be fine and standard as well. This line wins you a bigger pot though. Just make sure to do your homework first with this line using some of the stats I talked about above assuming you have a decent sample size on the guy. You need to know that there is a good likelihood that he will fold. Some players at these stakes will only take this line with 2pair+ and are snap calling your shove.
 
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What is the best course of action to take here? Keep barreling?

I felt that if I bet again, it may fold him out.

You say this like it is a bad thing. We have King high. I don't think him folding is a terrible result.
 
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You say this like it is a bad thing. We have King high. I don't think him folding is a terrible result.

I worded the phrases poorly, I should have connected it with the sentence that followed it.

I meant it like I could fold him out, but if he called then I am left in an awkward position if I missed the river. And if I hit my flush and lead out, he may just fold and I win nothing more.

I felt the chk/shove had better fold equity and it can win me a larger pot if he folded.

I am only using Carbon's handtracker which doesn't have the deeper stats that you mentioned.

Thank you for your thoughts.
 
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Don't c-bet K high and hands like that on mid pair coordinated boards and draw heavy boards like this unless you have a big hand or a draw yourself, especially against someone you think floats a lot. C/F. Boards like 87,98,TJ with 2 of one suit, out of position, you're probably getting folds 25% or less, and your equity will rarely be great.
 
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I thought you played it well, I don't see anything wrong with your c bet with the heart flush draw and over cards against that board.
You have about 48% equity against any likely pair of 7 or 8 or small pair that he may have (t-8 9-8, 9-7, 7-6, 22 through 66, I would be betting large on the turn with that equity.
Personally I think check raising the turn the way you played it is quite a gutsy bluff and you won with king high, an excellent result.
 
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I thought you played it well, I don't see anything wrong with your c bet with the heart flush draw and over cards against that board.
You have about 48% equity against any likely pair of 7 or 8 or small pair that he may have (t-8 9-8, 9-7, 7-6, 22 through 66, I would be betting large on the turn with that equity.
Personally I think check raising the turn the way you played it is quite a gutsy bluff and you won with king high, an excellent result.

You don't have anywhere near 48% equity versus top pair. Against his whole range, you may have 35% equity, which on the surface may look like a profitable bet when factoring in FE (although this will be super low on this kind of board), but being OOP on a board where your turn equity is super low if your opponent calls the flop, makes it better to c/f against most opponents.
 
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48% equity against top pair after the flop. Agreed only 30% after the turn.
 
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Hero flopped a flush draw with overs and backdoor SD.
 
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48% equity against top pair after the flop. Agreed only 30% after the turn.

No, you don't have 48% versus top pair. Not sure how you're getting this, but typically speaking if you have 2 overs and not really any other outs, you have ~25% vs top pair on the flop. Usually you'll have a few more runner runner outs though that will bump your equity up at minimum.
 
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No, you don't have 48% versus top pair. Not sure how you're getting this, but typically speaking if you have 2 overs and not really any other outs, you have ~25% vs top pair on the flop. Usually you'll have a few more runner runner outs though that will bump your equity up at minimum.

John: You have missed the part where hero flopped a flush draw with his overs.
 
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