$4 NLHE 6-max: JJ with position but dangerous board

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$4 NL HE 6-max: JJ with position but dangerous board

UTG limps. I had JJ at UTG+1. I raise to 16c. Everyone folds except for BB and UTG.

Flop comes 665 with two spades. BB checks. UTG leads out with min. 4c bet.

What should I do here? Should I just call and see the turn cheaply to try to catch a J? Or should I raise to find out where I am at or punish him for chasing a draw?

I thought there was a chance he would have called the preflop raise (just 12c more into a 34c pot) with connectors so I didn't rule out trip 6s here.

The WA/WB scenario...
 
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First never raise to see where you are. There are 3 reasons. For value, to fold out a worse hand, and to protect our hand. We can also have a combination of 2 or all 3.

Second you aren't assigning a real range, you are just naming a hand that beats you and something vague about draws and not knowing where you are. You should always know where you are with the information you have. As the hand progresses you will be able to narrow it down.

You haven't told us anything about his tendencies, what does he limp with? Limping UTG is very bad, would he only do this with a monster? Or does he limp call everything?

Me I'm betting the flop, for protection against draws. For value as he seems cally but I don't know, and you have a strong hand. We aren't likely to fold anything better here especially against this player.

Third it isn't WA/WB unless you have a specific read he has AA/KK/QQ. If you do you obviously check but we can't know that yet. He can have AK/Q, draws straight and flush. Definately not WA/WB.
 
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He's a typical Carbon loose passive type. He could have had anything other than the worst 27, 38 type of hands.

I definitely don't think he has the AK/QQ types.

I put him on either a draw, 6, or 7.
 
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Always raise here. This min bet is how a fish throws out a small bet to try and scare people into letting them draw for free.

There are so much many more draws and worse hands here than 'a 6'

This is not WA/WB either, not in any way.

Cold calling is simply awful, you want to draw to your 4% chance of catching a J? He has a much better chance to improve. Really if you're not happy getting stacks in with JJ here against this type of player you should just fold them pre imo.
 
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He's a typical Carbon loose passive type. He could have had anything other than the worst 27, 38 type of hands.

I definitely don't think he has the AK/QQ types.

I put him on either a draw, 6, or 7.

How about pocket pairs?

Homework for you: What's your equity against the range you put him on?
 
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