$4 NLHE 6-max: Did I play this right.

I was the utg with 55,
I figure you can only really improve on 55 if you hit it on the board, so I didnt raise.

Button raises to 11 cent.

I call the 6 cent raise not much for 55.
Big blind calls before me also.

Flop comes 7h,Jc,5s

Button bets 15 cent,
I want to slow play my hand so i wait a bit and call.
turn is 3 of diamonds.

button bets 23cent i call and the river is a 7 of diamonds.

Now I shove with my full house.
But button calls and has pocket jacks so he wins.

Did I do the right thing here, im playing 4nl and getting value out of players is easy when you have the hand but it back fired here.

Would you have played it the same? Should I work on something

thanks

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I woulda prolly done same thing. Set over set is a brutal loss but its Nearly impossible not to reraise there. You never specified stack amounts so add to determine whether I woulda shoved or raised.

Limping from EP on 6 Max?
Seems to me open 3X and then if they 3B, fold with small pairs......

Boat over boat is a hideous cooler, which will not happen to you again in several thousand hands. Shake it off and move on.

Also, don't limp. Just open-raise (I prefer minraising in relatively tight games, but if there are a few stations around do a standard 3x) and fold to a 3bet.

I cant say you played it poorly, maybe a raise on the flop.

AugustWest said:

Limping from EP on 6 Max?
Seems to me open 3X and then if they 3B, fold with small pairs......

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I guess, but 5s are really only going to improve on the flop.
But I see what you mean.

Aleksei said:

Boat over boat is a hideous cooler, which will not happen to you again in several thousand hands. Shake it off and move on.

Also, don't limp. Just open-raise (I prefer minraising in relatively tight games, but if there are a few stations around do a standard 3x) and fold to a 3bet.

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Well Ive played a few thousand hands so far, and ive not had that happen, i busted someone with quads when they had a boat on the flop/

Ill 3 bet, because these tables are huge callers. maybe even 4 bet, people treat 6,5, suited like aces lol

BluffyouBAD said:

I woulda prolly done same thing. Set over set is a brutal loss but its Nearly impossible not to reraise there. You never specified stack amounts so add to determine whether I woulda shoved or raised.

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my 1.70 stack vs 4 dollar stack.

Raise pre, never open limp it gives your opponent too much information and never takes the blinds down which is significant in the long run.

4nl I just checkraise here as people bluff less, hand read less well and never fold top pair. Postflops defo a cooler though your stack was his the second that flop came down.

your first mistake is limping utg. never limp period except if its multiway with pot odds with suited connectors or something like this. you still get fold equity from raising and c betting flops

jcdagenius said:

your first mistake is limping utg. never limp period except if its multiway with pot odds with suited connectors or something like this. you still get fold equity from raising and c betting flops

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ok so by raising it gives me a better chance at taking down the pot by c betting. but if im playing calling stations wont c betting just eat into my stack?

Deco said:

Raise pre, never open limp it gives your opponent too much information and never takes the blinds down which is significant in the long run.

4nl I just checkraise here as people bluff less, hand read less well and never fold top pair. Postflops defo a cooler though your stack was his the second that flop came down.

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You say my stack was his, but with a flopped set there was no way i was getting away from that hand. would you have gotten away?

playtheman said:

ok so by raising it gives me a better chance at taking down the pot by c betting. but if im playing calling stations wont c betting just eat into my stack?

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We can make more money when we hit.
We can c-bet dry flops that are profitable bets even vs stations
We can take down the blinds when no-one calls
We keep our hand disguised.

playtheman said:

You say my stack was his, but with a flopped set there was no way i was getting away from that hand. would you have gotten away?

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No I wouldn't have. Doesn't make your stack any less his

u hit your hand, you get the money in, so you cant do more it's unfotunate set over set, thats just poker u did right.

why are you sitting short stacked your losing value when you hit hands like this and get stacked you lost this time but will win most of the time and will leave your opponent with half of their stack.

Try and sit with 100bb if you can as set mining with 50bb will not be profitable in the long run, I'd be folding 55's pre with your stack.

micromoi said:

u hit your hand, you get the money in, so you cant do more it's unfotunate set over set, thats just poker u did right.

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I agree, you are going to come up against a higher set every now and then when playing low pairs. Don't be afraid of this get you money in, a lot of the time at this limit players will be calling with top pair.

preflop I would've raised 4x (because of position). Post flop I would've slow played on that dry board. You played the hand good, but next time raise or fold preflop (especially from EP)

Hate the slowplay.
Depending on villain you can donk flop, or check/raise flop, or check/call flop and donk turn.
As played you built a tiny pot by the river and your shove is a massive overbet that is going to fold out a shitload of hands that you could still get value from.

I dont mind the slowplay on the dry board. I agree though, play with 100bbs especially when set mining.

Amd make sure the dude you are mining against has at least 60+ bb behind....

AugustWest said:

Amd make sure the dude you are mining against has at least 60+ bb behind....

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Yes ! make sure he has 70-80 bb+ otherwise is not profitable to set mine small-medium pocket pairs, because when you hit your set you don't want to take only 50 bb from him

AugustWest said:

Amd make sure the dude you are mining against has at least 60+ bb behind....

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can you elaborate on this further ,
thanks

Most of the time you do not hit your set and must fold. Also when you do hit, you don't always get paid off. So you need to maximize your winnings here.

My rule of thumb is that I need their stack to be 20x the size of the amount I have to call.