$4 NLHE 6-max: How else could this have ended?

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masadad

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$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
Stacks:
UTG agiesing ($5.46) 137bb
UTG+1 bogus1811 ($5.06) 127bb
CO cavci07 ($7.24) 181bb
BTN AnxiaCaelebs ($1.78) 45bb
SB Hero ($12.27) 307bb
BB lvbnhbq551 ($2.39) 60bb
Pre-Flop: (0.06, 6 players) Hero is SB K A

2 folds, cavci07 raises to $0.16, AnxiaCaelebs calls $0.16, Hero raises to $1.12, 1 fold, cavci07 calls $0.96, AnxiaCaelebs folds

Flop: J 5 5 ($2.44, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $11.15, cavci07 goes all-in $6.12
Turn: 8 ($19.71, 2), 2 all-in

River: Q ($19.71, 2), 2 all-in
Final Pot: $19.71
cavci07 shows
??
Hero shows
K A

so, this is my first HA post here. looking to learn from analysis. i am specifically posting this hand because it obviously looks like a stupid play, or is it? i was surely going to see it through till the river which would have been the same as going all-in. i just took my chance to push him out of the pot early on. bad thinking?

let me know what you would do. by the way, my stack was up to $17 and then after a bad beat it came down to $12. i hate to admit that i was being a little aggressive to recover from that bad beat.
 
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akaRobbo

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Why are you 3betting pre to that amount?
 
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when playing $0.01/$0.02 or $0.02/$0.04 i have seen that there are plenty of fishes out there who would call up to 10BB to see the flop with mediocre hands or even worse and luckily hit something or chase a straight/flush to the river.

been there too many times. so i decided i better raise to an amount that would get rid of all those donks and only hands worthy enough would call or might as well take down the pot pre-flop. at least would be a fair fight that way and a loss would be a little more acceptable than losing to hands like 72o ffs.

let me know when to reveal CO(cavci07's) hand
 
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Aces2w1n

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Yeh that amount made me laugh and the flop was even worse...

Total spew

Im guessing he had qq
 
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Now down to business...

Deeper the stacks the less value ak has and we really want to avoid going allin with air.. even if he repops pre its a fold

Now the higher the bet pre equals to how u rank ur opponent or how wide he calls/plays

You want to b cbetting towards ppl who play fit.fold on the flop


Remember we miss the flop bout 1/3 of the time
 
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he had JJ ... guy flopped a fullhouse -_-
 
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As soon as he calls our massive 3bet and you miss the flop I know I'm behind here. Unless he's a total drooler you shouldn't put another cent into this pot unless you improve.
I used to make this mistake with AK myself. You should 3bet larger from oop but once you get called you know you are up against a pair at least half the time and you have to slow down,. On a normal 3bet sizing I'd make my standard cbet and if called again and miss the turn then give up.
As Robbo said the shove is spew and never folds out any overpair on that board. the only time you can play AK like this is if the table has already seen you do the same with AA/KK.
 
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Delvuter

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Your 3-bet does not need to be that big, you are re-raising to get the pot right here and now or to get something better to fold. AA isn't folding, KK prolly won't even fold, so you massive re-raise is for nothing. Just re-raise 3x to 4x his bet. If he shoves it is a potential fold depending on what his tendencies are. If he is tight, fold. If he is loose, call. If he just 4-bets standard call and see the flop. Here the flop misses you and pairs giving him a potential 2-pair to you A high. You are in the same scenario as preflop, but worse off. A standard C-bet would be appropriate and if re-raised it's a fold. If called I would check the turn and see what he does, if he bets I would fold, ya got garbage. I don't get excited about AK, and you shouldn't either. Depending on how the hand plays out ya got A high and nobody gets all gitty about that.
 
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I guess, you could play check call flop, because they have a lot of jacks in their calling range and pocket pairs like 88 99 TT
 
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I understand that people will play ANY 2 cards in micro stakes and you want to get rid of the garbage hands, but I agree with most of the other posts. The bets are really out of line for AK and it WILL cost you money. Delvu is absolutely right. Way too many players over value AK and I was definitely one of them for a long time. It is a really pretty hand, but it is only A high. I know it sucks to put in a standard 3bb or 4bb raise, flop TPTK, and get run down by some idiot calling/raising with K8, but those are the idiots you make your money from. They make bad decisions preflop and then can't fold their weak top pair. So you definitely want to play against these villains when your holding a good hand. So just use standard bets/raises with AK and break that fish who can't fold his A6. Good Luck
On a side note....you should probably assume that any fish that is going to call a 15bb raise with garbage, IS going to call a 50bb raise with garbage.
 
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hey how else it could've ended..... the internet goes out when villain calls.
 
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Crazy sizing pre lol it's awesome the shove is even better I like your style but when dude calls your crazy preflop raise you no he's got a pair and you can't bluff off your whole stack like that you should stream your play I would watch that shit all day if you keep making wild plays like these. Post more hands please


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