$4 NLHE 6-max: Fold turn to cold 3-bet ?

JonnyW87

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 26/20/2

iPoker - £0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 142.25 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.94, PFR: 20.30, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, hands: 542)
MP: 127.5 BB (VPIP: 29.14, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 3.50, Hands: 438)
CO: 255.5 BB (VPIP: 16.19, PFR: 11.74, 3Bet Preflop: 1.18, Hands: 253)
BTN: 143.75 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 12.20, Hands: 118)
SB: 229.25 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:spade: 9:club:

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) J:spade: 9:diamond: 7:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (12 BB, 3 players) Q:spade:
SB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 21 BB, UTG raises to 81 BB, HERO ???
 
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I think villain will be c-betting all over pairs, sets and top pair hands here as it's not the best of flops to try and slow play a big hand here.

I do think that he will be checking back AQ against 2 opponents but not sure if he is willing to stack off with just TPTK, but the cold 3-bet just looks so strong.

It is possible he is slow playing a set but when the board got draw heavy decided to just GII. AQ another possibility but that was the least likely I thought, or KTs also was the main hand I didn't wanna see if I called. Maybe something like KQdd giving him top pair, gut shot and a flush draw.
 
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Only hands that play this way that have you beat are QQ and K10s so I'd just get it in here and expect to lose sometimes
 
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Definetly on a decent connected board and we run risk of ppl catching up quite easily but we shouldn't fear it obviously.

Your main objective when you hit your set is to get the money in. Why did you check seriously it just makes it that much tougher.

I understand if you check first to act perhaps and have a big chance someone will bet. But when you check you really want to know if your opponents are the aggressive or passive type.

At this level just think by the river you want to have the chips in and a caller. Just work out how your going to do it. And checking isn't it.
 
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I think it is pretty standard to check to the initial raiser in a situation like this. I wasn't UTG here I was in the blinds.

Villain raised 4x from UTG so we have to give him credit for a decent hand here, I think leading in to him is pretty bad tbh.

My initial plan was to x/r the flop hoping he could not get away from top pair or an over pair, if he has JJ here then it's just a cooler I suppose.
 
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Villain raised 4x from UTG so we have to give him credit for a decent hand here, I think leading in to him is pretty bad tbh.

My initial plan was to x/r the flop hoping he could not get away from top pair or an over pair, if he has JJ here then it's just a cooler I suppose.

Actually I would say the complete opposite. This is the kind of spot where donking can be very profitable!! Especially multi way and when we put villain on a very tight strong opening range... The goal is to GII here and that means building the pot as early as possible.


XR, as you intended to do here, is fine but you are relying on your opponent betting for you. The types of hands you are looking to get action from will raise your donk anyway, along with FD and SD's sometimes, along with some random hands that don't know how to respond to donk bets.

I will also play my big draws this way some times to in spots like this
 
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What are you worried about? being re-raised???

This is what we want!
 
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Actually I would say the complete opposite. This is the kind of spot where donking can be very profitable!! Especially multi way and when we put villain on a very tight strong opening range... The goal is to GII here and that means building the pot as early as possible.


XR, as you intended to do here, is fine but you are relying on your opponent betting for you. The types of hands you are looking to get action from will raise your donk anyway, along with FD and SD's sometimes, along with some random hands that don't know how to respond to donk bets.

I will also play my big draws this way some times to in spots like this

Yup, and sometimes a 1/2 pot donk on this flop will make villains put you on draws you want to see turn cheaply with so they will raise a lot of their TPGK and overpair hands which you can jam over. Villains are usually not cbetting this flop without a pretty strong made hand in a multiway pot. Only bluff villains cbet with will be an AQ/AK suited type hands that flopped a flush draw.
 
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