$4 NLHE 6-max: Double barrel bluff turns into value shove against unknown?

c9h13no3

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Reads: Its 2NL, so our opponent sucks.

Comments on my whole line appreciated. I'll give my thought process for each street after I get some opinions.

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $0.96
CO: $7.30
BTN: $2.00
SB: $1.87
Hero (BB): $6.16
UTG: $7.32

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with K 4
4 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.20) 3 2 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, SB calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.48) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.41, SB calls $0.41

River: ($1.30) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.22
 
The Dark Side

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I dont know. But the river seems like a bad bet.

Arent the only calls youll get here ones that beat you?


The line seems really strong.


Did he call that river bet? Were you beat?


Me? In my infinite wisdom wouldvecheck called the river and allowed him to bluff w Tx, 66, 77, diamond draws etc.
 
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Hero was in position so he couldn't have check called river. I'd probably check behind the turn since flush draws hit. Flop he's probably calling with overs, FDs, any pair. The ten might have hit him and i probably can't continue if i get raised so like I said ill check turn. I'm betting river for sure. Villain probably would have raised turn if he had a flush or set so you might be good here
 
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I like it. The turn bet is a little big.
 
c9h13no3

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Okay, so far we've had a guy who said he would check the turn, a guy who said he would check the river, and a guy who said he "likes it". So we've got no consensus at all....

And if you guys haven't figured out yet, I'm not looking for a line check when I'm posting 2NL hands, I'm posting to start discussion. So with that in mind, allow me to ask some questions.

I like it. The turn bet is a little big.
Why is the turn bet big? And why do you "like it".

TheDarkSide said:
Arent the only calls youll get here ones that beat you?

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In my infinite wisdom wouldvecheck called the river and allowed him to bluff w Tx, 66, 77, diamond draws etc.
What hands do you think a guy at these stakes calls with when we shove the river (villain has $1.22 left)? Would you bet 6x, 77, or Tx as a bluff?


bgomez89 said:
I'd probably check behind the turn since flush draws hit. Flop he's probably calling with overs, FDs, any pair. The ten might have hit him and i probably can't continue if i get raised so like I said ill check turn. I'm betting river for sure. Villain probably would have raised turn if he had a flush or set so you might be good here
How many tens is our opponent calling this flop with? If we check back the turn and hit a five or a king, do we expect to get called? Lastly, what's your plan for the river if you check back?
 
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How many tens is our opponent calling this flop with? If we check back the turn and hit a five or a king, do we expect to get called? Lastly, what's your plan for the river if you check back?

well he could, as i mentioned, call a flop bet with overs like JT+ suited or unsuited. I think that's ok to put into villain's range of limping hands at 2nl. If we hit a K or a 5 after we checked back turn and villain checks to us, we can probably assume that he's probably not going to call our river bet but we still should throw one out obv.

If villain bets river and we hit a K or 5 i'm probably just going to call a sane sized bet because he may have hit a flush or two pair(with KT, but not likely since we have a K) but also betting will be maybe a ten, six, or some bluffs given how our line so far looks as if he gave up.

That being said, villain is rarely going to be checking flushes and two pairs on the river so it's probably safe to bet and hopefully get a call from a T or 6.
 
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Reads: Its 2NL, so our opponent sucks.

Comments on my whole line appreciated. I'll give my thought process for each street after I get some opinions.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $0.96
CO: $7.30
BTN: $2.00
SB: $1.87
Hero (BB): $6.16
UTG: $7.32

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with K 4
4 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.20) 3 2 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, SB calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.48) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.41, SB calls $0.41

River: ($1.30) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.22

Preflop is standard, I mean I usually make it 4x the BB there but at 2nl more is likely better.

Flop is fine but I'm not expecting him to fold basically anything there (including random overs) so I don't like it unless you're almost always planning on betting the turn.

Turn bet seems a bit large to me. I think .32 accomplishes basically the same AND makes our river shove on good scare cards slightly more than pot and perhaps slightly scarier.

Once we hit the King I think the shove is super standard although I'm not sure he's calling with much only because he's probably been "putting you on AK" all along.

If you had missed on the river, what cards, if any, were you planning on shoving if he checked again???
 
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